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Elon and Gracias- the number of noncitizens with SS#s and benefits

Posted on 3/30/25 at 10:00 pm
Posted by prplngldtigr
just up da bayou from down
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 3/30/25 at 10:00 pm
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 3/30/25 at 10:08 pm to
Watching that makes me so fricking angry two weeks before tax day.
Posted by prplngldtigr
just up da bayou from down
Member since Dec 2004
7883 posts
Posted on 3/30/25 at 10:10 pm to
Posted by MongoSooner
Oklahoma
Member since Jun 2024
101 posts
Posted on 3/30/25 at 10:12 pm to
Good find. Encouraging
Posted by MidWestGuy
Illinois
Member since Nov 2018
1815 posts
Posted on 3/30/25 at 10:21 pm to
I sure want to see specifics on the ones that voted. A single illegal vote means a citizens vote was canceled out. And we have a constitutional right to vote.

Details need to be made VERY public.
Posted by Westbank111
Armpit of America
Member since Sep 2013
4592 posts
Posted on 3/30/25 at 10:24 pm to
People need to boycott taxes as they exist until the reform happens
Posted by hawgfaninc
https://youtu.be/torc9P4-k5A
Member since Nov 2011
53939 posts
Posted on 3/30/25 at 10:27 pm to
There’s a group of people that should watch this

But it wouldn’t change their mind.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
27582 posts
Posted on 3/30/25 at 10:29 pm to
Trust me bro.
Posted by This GUN for HIRE
Member since May 2022
5611 posts
Posted on 3/30/25 at 10:30 pm to
Could you imagine 75 million shutting it down? Break the government, that is the only way.

Trump would be begging us & we could then demand what we wanted. But most Americans are too fat & happy w/o any balls.
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
19267 posts
Posted on 3/30/25 at 10:46 pm to
I would like to say gracias to Mr. Gracias.
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
92755 posts
Posted on 3/30/25 at 10:54 pm to
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Trust me bro.

Carry that water boy
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
20943 posts
Posted on 3/30/25 at 10:56 pm to
We've known all of this for years.

This has been going on for many years and Biden kept it going.
Social Security Numbers for Non-Citizens pdf document December 2024
Social Security Administration
2022

2020 So, during Trump's first term.
...Social Security Administration issues three kinds of Social Security cards.
All include the holder's name and Social Security number, but they differ according to a person's immigration status. And not all of them let you work.

The most common type is the basic Social Security card known to hundreds of millions of people. It is issued to U.S. citizens and to noncitizens that the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) has given permission to live and work in the country permanently. These include:

Immigrants with a permanent resident card, known as a green card
Refugees
People granted asylum

The second type of card carries the words “valid for work only with DHS authorization.” It is issued to people who have permission to live and work here temporarily.

The third type is stamped “not valid for employment.” It is issued to noncitizens who don't have permission to work but need a Social Security number for other reasons, such as to apply for government benefits or services.


This has been gamed for years. Our own government has been doing this. We need a complete audit of citizenship in this nation. I proposed this some time ago.
Federal govt demands birth and death certificates from every part of the US. Any state that does not fully comply is cut off from federal funding and all state residents lose out on citizenship verification - that means no voting, for example.
You should have to report to a Social Security office, authenticate your citizenship and get a new card. It could look something like this:
Born prior to 1970 just your birth certificate.
Born 1970 - 1990 bring your birth certificate and that of at least one parent, and death certificate if applicable for parent.
Born after 1990 bring birth certificates of you, your parents, and grandparents, and death certificates if applicable.
All birth certificates get cross matched against records from public databases. Same with those listed as parents. Death certificates as well.

We've all had to do the identity verification, 'which one of these addresses are you affiliated with', that stuff is all public record, so that can be used, as well as tax records. If Joe shows up and claims Pam is his mom but Joe shows a social security number where Mindy claimed him as a dependent, then Joe is a fraud.

Pass all the fraud checks and so forth, you get your card. Maybe we pair it with a DNA sample or fingerprint or retina scan. There are ways to deal with the special categories like those born overseas because parents were govt employees and so forth.

We need a full audit. Our citizenship has been cheapened enough. Elon stands up there and rants about this stuff but he gamed the system too, using Canadian citizenship as a ploy to accelerate US citizenship.
Posted by NashvilleTider
Your Mom
Member since Jan 2007
15242 posts
Posted on 3/30/25 at 10:58 pm to
Musk has always shown receipts you loon
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
27582 posts
Posted on 3/30/25 at 11:30 pm to
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Musk has always shown receipts you loon

Really? Why aren’t they bringing actions to claw back fraudulent payments? Why aren’t fraudsters being charged? They make statements and bring no proof at all and take no action.

Where are these receipts?
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
108191 posts
Posted on 3/30/25 at 11:37 pm to
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Trust me bro.


You would have to be a retard to refute this being tru, oh wait, never mind.
Posted by Boomdaddy65201
BoCoMo
Member since Mar 2020
4143 posts
Posted on 3/30/25 at 11:56 pm to
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Where are these receipts?


JFC, it’s an official government website, just like going to the House Oversight Committee, the U.S. Senate, or the U.S. Supreme Court.

You do realize DOGE was created under O’bama and a Democratic administration, correct?

quote:

NPR - That office launched in 2014 to improve the federal government's digital capabilities following the rocky rollout of the HealthCare.gov website.


DOGE.gov

…with fricking receipts.
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
19210 posts
Posted on 3/30/25 at 11:56 pm to
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The third type is stamped “not valid for employment.” It is issued to noncitizens who don't have permission to work but need a Social Security number for other reasons, such as to apply for government benefits or services.


This is what makes everyone's blood boil. Why are non-working illegals eligible for taxpayer-funded benefits?
Posted by burke985
UGANDA
Member since Aug 2011
28387 posts
Posted on 3/31/25 at 12:01 am to
Arrests most surely will come of this right ?
Posted by LSUFreek
Greater New Orleans
Member since Jan 2007
15900 posts
Posted on 3/31/25 at 1:02 am to
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This is what makes everyone's blood boil. Why are non-working illegals eligible for taxpayer-funded benefits?

Now, imagine a foreign single mother illegally entering/invading our country, immediately getting a SS#, then getting SNAP, WIC, TANF, CHIP, Medicaid, & Housing Choice Vouchers..without working a single day...and without going to a sanctuary city where they could've gotten additional benefits like debit cards & free hotel rooms. Then protesting recent deportations by waving the flag of the country they bolted from.

Blood goes from boiling to deep-fried.
Posted by anchor_down
Member since Feb 2025
51 posts
Posted on 3/31/25 at 4:58 am to
I appreciate the receipts, that is great transparency. Not sure I like the accounting.

I would be chewed out six ways to Sunday if I claimed my department had “saved” all the money by canceling a Blank Purchasing Agreement (BPA).

Take that Centennial Technologies BPA. The claim of savings of $1.9 Billion doesn’t stand up to critical analysis, as a BPA is essentially a purchasing order agreement. There could be up to $1.9 Billion in savings if it were to be assumed that all $1.9 Billion would be procured throughout the length of the contract.

To thoughtfully account for savings, I would coach my team of analysts to explain what orders with Centennial Technologies have been made in the past, the percentage of BPAs that are filled by this government org in the past, and to subtract the amount of money already spent on the order (not going to save what has already been spent) - among other factors to consider.

I do really appreciate the links to those contracts, but just slashing a BPA and claiming all that as savings is something a poor middle manager would try to share with executives to earn a pat on the head during some meeting those execs will forget in 30 minutes because the presentation wasn’t founded in solid analytical rigor.
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