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re: Dunkin’ Employee Fatally Punches Man who Used Racial Slur, Charged and Sentenced

Posted on 3/9/22 at 2:57 pm to
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
30266 posts
Posted on 3/9/22 at 2:57 pm to
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fricked around

Found out

You're a pretty despicable person to think an old man deserved to die for saying a word.
Posted by GhostOfFreedom
Member since Jan 2021
13269 posts
Posted on 3/9/22 at 2:57 pm to
Just because a murderer says someone used a racial slur against him doesn't mean it really happened. However, the victim is still dead.

Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
16880 posts
Posted on 3/9/22 at 2:58 pm to
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If a genderless, race-less 27 year old punched an irate and verbally abusive genderless and race-less 77 year old and the 77 year old died, and the 27 year old had no criminal history, I would not care if said 27 year old got a sentence of this type
I would care. But not a pedo. I give zero fricks
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
19987 posts
Posted on 3/9/22 at 3:01 pm to
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Ok

If someone tells me I'm 'white privileged', now I know I can knock them out.


I laughed. I live in a country that is primarily of color. 2 or 3 times a day someone refers to me as "white man", as in they will say "that white man is here to see you".

I usually respond with "I have told you not to refer to me as a white man, I would prefer THAT GOOD LOOKING white man"
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
38053 posts
Posted on 3/9/22 at 3:01 pm to
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victim repeatedly used possibly the most aggressive and offensive term in the English language,”

I expect Snoop Dogg, Dre, Fiddy, Diddy, IceT, Ice Cube, DMX, Lil John, Lil Wayne, Bone, and all the other "musicians" in that genre to be chastised and canceled for their "aggressive and offensive" frequent use of that language too, then.

While we're at it, we can go for all the popular white guys who used that language in their music too... Axl Rose and David Allen Coe.
Posted by MojoGuyPan
Intercession City, Florida
Member since Jun 2018
2797 posts
Posted on 3/9/22 at 3:05 pm to
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Once Cook said the racial slur, Pujols walked around the counter and told him not to say that again. When he repeated it, Pujols hit him in the jaw and Cook fell to the floor.



Old man Cook was a pos who fafo. If he had a glass jaw, he shouldn't have been tempting fate provoking the kid.

The old man deserved what he got. I was raised to treat people with kindness, the old man was a first class a-hole. f him.
Posted by RandySavage
9 Time Natty Winner
Member since May 2012
35512 posts
Posted on 3/9/22 at 3:06 pm to
Torn here. You can't be strutting around throwing around racial slurs and not expect to catch some hands. That said, at some point you got to realize you're dealing with a 77 year old pos and just have to be able to let it go. He didn't go get a gun and kill the guy he punched him and the dude couldn't take a punch. Probably a light sentence but the guy definitely doesn't deserve to have his life ruined over it.

Definitely would be reported differently if the roles were reversed though.
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
16880 posts
Posted on 3/9/22 at 3:23 pm to
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the dude couldn't take a punch.
not many 77 year olds can. But he was a pedo so justice delayed isn't always justice denied
Posted by AUHighPlainsDrifter
South Carolina
Member since Sep 2017
3246 posts
Posted on 3/9/22 at 3:27 pm to
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The old man deserved what he got. I was raised to treat people with kindness, the old man was a first class a-hole. f him.


Were you raised to punch someone that says something you don't like? If so, you were raised poorly.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
117597 posts
Posted on 3/9/22 at 3:32 pm to
Vonelle

IDK, there's something about that name that brings an image.
I'm seeing someone say:
"So me and my buddy Vonelle walked into the Donut place."

Posted by WokeGoBroke
Member since Mar 2022
327 posts
Posted on 3/9/22 at 3:34 pm to
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I mean if this is true he deserves to get his arse beat for being a racist dick. That doesn’t mean he deserved to die or that the employee intended to kill him.


However indecent, racism is a protected form of speech. If you're going into chimp mode for someone calling you a name, then maybe racism wasn't all that unjustified.

A factor that needs to be considered is that the old man was old as frick. He could have dementia, schizophrenia and can't take an asswhooping. Little punk should be doing longer time. Hopefully he get his soon enough.
Posted by canyon
MM23
Member since Dec 2003
22203 posts
Posted on 3/9/22 at 3:36 pm to
Da
Moan
Slang for dickwad that needs to perish
Posted by StPeteLSU
St Petersburg, FL
Member since Oct 2011
2072 posts
Posted on 3/9/22 at 3:38 pm to
Would love to see P azz Damien in a fight. He would run like hell. Just Ike if we were invaded he would leave the country not be like that Arky kid who was on TV the other day. In fact would love to watch Damone and the Arky boy go at it. Would be a blast
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
15083 posts
Posted on 3/9/22 at 3:41 pm to
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Wait...isn't that what manslaughter is? Being responsible for a death but not intending to kill?


Complicated issue but this is the best "quick" summary I could find:

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Manslaughter is the act of killing another human being in a way that is less culpable than murder. See Homicide.

Under both the common law and the Pennsylvania Method of differentiating degrees of murder, manslaughter was divided into voluntary and involuntary manslaughter:

Voluntary manslaughter is intentionally killing another person in the heat of passion and in response to adequate provocation.
Involuntary manslaughter is negligently causing the death of another person.
Under the Model Penal Code, manslaughter includes:

Reckless homicide
Homicide that would be murder, but "is committed under the influence of extreme mental or emotional disturbance for which there is reasonable explanation or excuse
."
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
16880 posts
Posted on 3/9/22 at 3:44 pm to
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Voluntary manslaughter is intentionally killing another person in the heat of passion and in response to adequate provocation.
yeah that's pretty much what happened. You pop someone that old it isn't likely they are getting up
This post was edited on 3/9/22 at 3:45 pm
Posted by Tideroller
Lower Alabama
Member since Jan 2022
3200 posts
Posted on 3/9/22 at 3:47 pm to
This is why I go to Krispy Kreme.
Posted by TankBoys32
Member since Mar 2019
4229 posts
Posted on 3/9/22 at 3:48 pm to
I’ll laugh if you suffer a similar fate
Posted by RandySavage
9 Time Natty Winner
Member since May 2012
35512 posts
Posted on 3/9/22 at 3:52 pm to
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But he was a pedo so justice delayed isn't always justice denied


Yea didn't even see that in my initial response but based on the story and the pics of the dude not surprising at all. I doubt society will miss Vonelle Cook very much.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
23222 posts
Posted on 3/9/22 at 3:53 pm to
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In a reasonable world nobody thinks Pujols is a genuinely bad actor


He punched an old man to death for saying words. He shouldn’t have done that and there is no excuse.

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nobody thinks the old cur is a true victim.


If being an a-hole was a death sentence the world may be a better place. But it’s not, it’s a shitty place. If the old man was still around a simple video of what he did would result in his life being worse off than the man’s that killed him.

Oh he didn’t mean to kill him? Well what did he mean to do? He meant to punch an old man.

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He strikes me as the type to have regret and learn plenty from this, but maybe I'm wrong.



What reason do we have to believe you are right?


Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
13268 posts
Posted on 3/9/22 at 3:55 pm to
I don't condone killing a man BUT I ain't shedding a tear over it in this case.


People need to stop being absolutely abhorrent jackasses. Maybe a few dipshit racists getting punched straight to pearly gates will help that cause.
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