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re: DOJ takes on the Jan. 6 Tucker Carlson tapes
Posted on 3/8/23 at 3:39 pm to Indefatigable
Posted on 3/8/23 at 3:39 pm to Indefatigable
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Ok then. Submit all footage to the Court and have a judge conduct an in camera review
Actually, the defense attorney should get to review all the footage (w DOJ there) and determine what is needed for a trial. Then, if DOJ objects in camera w court takes place. If it is needed for a jury, prosecutor has a decision... fold case or allow.
This post was edited on 3/8/23 at 3:40 pm
Posted on 3/8/23 at 3:42 pm to Jbird
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Prosecutors also argued that there’s still good reason not to widely release all security footage; “Disclosure of all CCV footage could not only reveal the U.S. Capitol’s internal surveillance system to third parties but could also jeopardize the privacy and security of certain persons depicted on such CCV footage.” LINK
Everyone should assume that every square inch of the Capitol is covered with CCTV. If there is an area that has no coverage then they need to buy more cameras.
They can call it an insurrection all they want, but a true insurrection would have been an armed assault. The Capitol Police on the street would have been shot dead and overrun.
But muh "you cant fight the US government..." A bunch of Vietnamese and middle easterners fought the US government long enough for us to give up and leave.
And there are four times as many firearms in US civilian hands that all the combined militaries of the planet. And most of those firearms are owned by right leaning, red state living people.
Posted on 3/8/23 at 3:50 pm to Jbird
quote:
Nearly all
quote:
Disclosure of all CCV footage could not only reveal the U.S. Capitol’s internal surveillance system to third parties but could also jeopardize the privacy and security of certain persons depicted on such CCV footage.”
Posted on 3/8/23 at 3:56 pm to BBONDS25
Is there alot of cell phone footage? I would have thought people would have a ton of cell phone footage, even the people arrested.
Posted on 3/8/23 at 4:22 pm to Jbird
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The filings are the first effort by the Justice Department to place limits on any potential efforts by Jan. 6 defendants to use the newly disclosed footage
How is this now a blatant violation of Constitutional rights?
Our justice system is just a joke
Posted on 3/8/23 at 4:24 pm to Jbird
We knew the DOJ was in the tank for the Dems when Hillary wasn't charged with 1 damn thing for her secret server and destroying top secret docs.
Posted on 3/8/23 at 4:26 pm to Jbird
quote:
Disclosure of all CCV footage could not only reveal the U.S. Capitol’s internal surveillance system to third parties
Most bullshite excuse I’ve ever heard
Hey, if you are walking in a room in a US Gov building, much less the capital, you are on camera.
There, I just revealed the capital buildings surveillance system.
We don’t need thermal or secret squirrel footage, the standard 4 to 8 megapixel IP camera footage that every one knows is everywhere will do.
This post was edited on 3/8/23 at 4:29 pm
Posted on 3/8/23 at 4:28 pm to SCLibertarian
quote:you better confirm wonderfully moderate garlic Merryman to the Supreme Court because after Hillary becomes president, you won't get this kind of deal again.
The DOJ
I member
Posted on 3/8/23 at 4:44 pm to Jbird
I'm still curious...well, more curious what others have to say about the lack of interest in the "pipe bomber" & why, after that threat/discovery of the "pipe bombs" was dispatched to LEO's & the like just prior to the fanfare, there was no sweep of the building & grounds for explosives and/or incendiaries before letting people back in the building to get those votes certified.
Posted on 3/8/23 at 4:51 pm to Jbird
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in some cases, has also been admitted in public hearings and/or trials and has been available to, released to, and/or published by news media
Only in cases where the footage shows literally nothing.
Posted on 3/8/23 at 4:52 pm to Jbird
This all sounds like grounds for appeal to me.
Posted on 3/8/23 at 5:03 pm to Jbird
I don’t know why we continue to pretend that the DOJ is not just weaponized by whoever is in office
Posted on 3/8/23 at 5:45 pm to Rex Feral
They really do believe and rightfully so, that Americans are retarded. There is no expectation of privacy in public places.
Even in places and in items where there is generally a reasonable expectation of privacy, exceptions exist. For example, even within one’s home or property, the “open-field” doctrine provides that if something on a person’s property is easily visible to the public without the need to be physically on the property (e.g., from the air from the street) then there is no expectation of privacy. For example, the police can use photos taken by police helicopters above one’s property of items that are visible from the air.
The expectation of privacy is reduced for people who are public employees. Employees who hold safety or security sensitive jobs such as bus drivers, train conductors, law enforcement officers or laboratory workers, have reduced expectations of privacy. Because of the trust society is putting in these individuals, that compelling state interest overrides the individual’s expectation of privacy. These people may, for example, be subjected to drug testing that the government could not subject an ordinary person to. [8]
Moreover, when people voluntarily enter space in which the government has an elevated security interest, the expectation of privacy is likewise reduced. The most obvious example occurs at airports. Transportation Security Administration agents may subject airline passengers and their luggage to virtually unlimited searching with virtually no cause, which would never be allowed in most other contexts.
Even in places and in items where there is generally a reasonable expectation of privacy, exceptions exist. For example, even within one’s home or property, the “open-field” doctrine provides that if something on a person’s property is easily visible to the public without the need to be physically on the property (e.g., from the air from the street) then there is no expectation of privacy. For example, the police can use photos taken by police helicopters above one’s property of items that are visible from the air.
The expectation of privacy is reduced for people who are public employees. Employees who hold safety or security sensitive jobs such as bus drivers, train conductors, law enforcement officers or laboratory workers, have reduced expectations of privacy. Because of the trust society is putting in these individuals, that compelling state interest overrides the individual’s expectation of privacy. These people may, for example, be subjected to drug testing that the government could not subject an ordinary person to. [8]
Moreover, when people voluntarily enter space in which the government has an elevated security interest, the expectation of privacy is likewise reduced. The most obvious example occurs at airports. Transportation Security Administration agents may subject airline passengers and their luggage to virtually unlimited searching with virtually no cause, which would never be allowed in most other contexts.
Posted on 3/8/23 at 6:26 pm to Jbird
This is some serious flack.
Tucker must be directly over the target.
Tucker must be directly over the target.
Posted on 3/8/23 at 6:39 pm to JumpingTheShark
quote:The bigger problem is the DOJ isn’t controlled by anyone when a republican is in office. The DOJ clearly worked against Trump—not for Trump. They have become a defacto fourth branch of government. Without the oversight the other three have
I don’t know why we continue to pretend that the DOJ is not just weaponized by whoever is in office
This post was edited on 3/8/23 at 6:40 pm
Posted on 3/8/23 at 7:57 pm to Jbird
All it takes is one principled judge to get one of these cases and the whole thing could collapse.
Posted on 3/8/23 at 8:02 pm to BobBoucher
quote:" is quite a challenge.
All it takes is one principled judge to get one of these cases and the whole thing could collapse.
Judge is one of the most corrupt positions in history. One principled judge is a real challenge. You know they come from among lawyers, the lowest form of life on earth "
Posted on 3/8/23 at 8:15 pm to Jbird
quote:Sorry!
“Nearly all the footage displayed on the program has long been in the government’s production to defense"
"Nearly all" is NOT the standard!
Posted on 3/8/23 at 8:22 pm to POTUS2024
quote:Jacob Chansley’s (QAnon Shaman) lawyer said he had not seen the video of his client before Tucker showed it.
At this point it seems there is a 100% guarantee that defendants have not had access to this video.
Posted on 3/8/23 at 8:23 pm to TigerVespamon
This makes Decatur and company so very happy.
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