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re: Does this board want to finally admit that Epic Fury was a mistake?

Posted on 8/10/26 at 6:54 pm to
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
175630 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 6:54 pm to
Everyone had had failures in their life. It's how we learn. I've been more successful than most. If you think the Iran conflict has been a success you are completely detached from reality.
Posted by Turnblad85
Member since Sep 2022
5950 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 6:55 pm to
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guess William F. Buckley simply tortured himself to death,


Wtf are you on?

Did you expect 1980 middle easterners to follow the same code of ethics that Americans enjoy? Are you dumb?
Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
11474 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 6:57 pm to
Define what you consider a military success then? I consider neutralizing the enemy’s ability to make war or launch any sizable offensive attacks with a very modest casualties to be a striking military success. Only a retard would argue differently. Sustaining the blockade and strategic patience is all that is needed at this point since the enemy no longer has the ability to launch offensive operations.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
69992 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 6:59 pm to
Posts like this are childish and desperate. Also, wasn't Al Qaeda responsible for the USS Cole?
Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
26684 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 7:01 pm to
Reading that makes me want to at least get more familiar with the 25th amendment.

I kid.

A little.
Posted by DeBoar
Member since Jan 2024
4085 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 7:01 pm to
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I've been more successful than most.


Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
34393 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 7:09 pm to
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I thought tahran and Beirut was them getting revenge on us for for running a coup on their government in '56 so we could benefit gtig oil?

You should stop posting. That was Britain, not us. Having any opinion on Iran is not your stong suit

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On 19 August 1953, Prime Minister of Iran Mohammad Mosaddegh was overthrown in a coup d'état that strengthened the rule of Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, the Shah of Iran. It was instigated by the United Kingdom (MI6), under the codename Operation Boot. A key motive was to protect British oil interests in Iran after Mosaddegh nationalized the country's oil industry.

Plus Mosaddegh had just thrown out the Iranian constitution and appointed himself ruler. He needed to be tossed
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Mossadegh was not elected by the people. The Iranian Constitution of 1906 made no provision for the direct election of the head of government. Article 46 of the Supplementary Fundamental Laws expressly assigned the appointment and dismissal of the prime minister to the Shah. Mossadegh came into office in 1951 because the Shah appointed him

In 1952, Mossadegh halted the parliamentary elections for the 17th Majles at the very moment when the number of deputies already elected was just sufficient to make parliament quorate. The remaining elections in the rural provinces, where conservative forces threatened to win majorities, never took place.

In the summer of 1953, he then dissolved this incomplete parliament as well, by means of a popular referendum, an instrument that the Iranian constitution neither recognized nor provided for. The right to dissolve parliament, under Article 48, lay exclusively with the king. Mossadegh circumvented this by appealing directly to the "will of the people." The vote on August 3, 1953, was not held by secret ballot: yes and no votes were cast in spatially separate polling stations, and every voter had to make publicly visible how he was voting.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
69992 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 7:12 pm to
Why did you leave out the U.S./CIA parts?
LINK
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
priapism survivor
Member since May 2011
17046 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 7:24 pm to
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Epic Fury was a mistake



If this causes the rest of the middle east to build infrastructure to bypass the straight and ultimately causes Iran to have zero leverage over the world economy, I'd call it at least a draw.

The regime may eventually fall as well.

Gas prices aren't really that bad, tbh.
Posted by PastorJ
Member since Sep 2024
1007 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 7:35 pm to
It's a mistake in that Trump bent the knee by listening to that idiot Vance. Trump should have finished the job when Iran was on the rope. But hey...had to make the anti-Semitic podcast bros happy I guess.
Posted by Dawglovertoo
Member since Mar 2026
906 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 7:35 pm to
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Trump 2.0 is about enriching and doing favors for his friends and donors. The sooner you understand that, the more it makes sense. He doesn’t give a shite.


Meh, Trump 2.0 is about getting justice for all the crap he and his supporters were put through since 2016.

I for one hope the Dumocrats and the Nevertrumpers get "justice" much time in jail as the law allows for what they did to Trump, his supporters and this country.
Posted by Dawglovertoo
Member since Mar 2026
906 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 7:38 pm to
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Gas prices aren't really that bad, tbh.


If they think gas prices are bad then they should have lived in California for the last ten years.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
69992 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 7:43 pm to
It's wild how we see things differently. I think he has been one of the only voices of reason with respect to Iran (Caine, too).
Posted by Turnblad85
Member since Sep 2022
5950 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 7:44 pm to
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You should stop posting. That was Britain, not us. Having any opinion on Iran is not your stong suit

Log off


Wow. Just, wow.
Posted by coldbeerfan
Orange Beach RTR Alabama
Member since Oct 2015
1713 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 7:52 pm to
No. Next question.
Posted by mailman85
Kentucky
Member since Mar 2013
410 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 8:19 pm to
100% without a doubt an absolute disastrous failure.
Posted by Grinder
Member since Nov 2007
2752 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 8:38 pm to
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They are the type you have to beat into submission, to the point where they are begging to negotiate. Anything less gets you exactly what we've been getting.


This.

Time to destroy Kharg Island.

Start with the real pain.
Posted by CastleBravo
Rapid City, SD
Member since Sep 2013
2169 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 8:38 pm to
The more I read every day, the happier I am about the Iran Win for us.

There is no reason at all to be upset about it.
Posted by Deplorableinohio
Member since Dec 2018
8168 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 8:53 pm to
Thune and Johnson are why republicans will lose the midterms.
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
34393 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 9:22 pm to
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Why did you leave out the U.S./CIA parts?
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Because it wasnt about oil rights. Which was the entire reason for the coup. For the US It was about keeping Iran from flipping to Russia
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UK prime minister Churchill solicited Eisenhower to aide in overthrowing Iran's government. The preceding Truman administration had opposed a coup. The UK government's solicitations to the US were instrumental in initiating and planning the coup

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British arguments that Mosaddeq was destabilizing Iran found a more friendly audience when Eisenhower became president. Fearing that a communist takeover of Iran was likely, Eisenhower authorized the ouster of Mosaddeq.

Churchill used their relationship from WWII to convince Eisenhower to stop what had happened in Germany from happening in Iran
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