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re: Does anyone actually believe Osama Bin Laden was killed by US forces in 2011
Posted on 8/21/19 at 3:53 pm to The Funnie Five
Posted on 8/21/19 at 3:53 pm to The Funnie Five
Well, you're half right. He wasn't killed. But he actually exists. He's over at my house right now. Is there anything you want me to ask him?
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Posted on 8/21/19 at 3:53 pm to The Funnie Five
I don’t believe ANYTHING that the Obama administration said was a fact.
Posted on 8/21/19 at 3:54 pm to The Funnie Five
The US government is one of the most inefficient collective bodies ever. But they have the ability to orchestrate a inside job with 9/11 make up a "face character" for this evil then pretend to have him killed. Not only that they have to have created the entire regime Bin Laden ran because they also confirmed his death.
They accomplished this with no one trying to get the truth out on a global level. Yet they can't even decide to put an interstate in without years of deliberation or keep track of illegals coming into our country. Really overestimating how organized they are. Yeah they can make someone disappear but keeping millions of people quiet and under control ain't happening.
They accomplished this with no one trying to get the truth out on a global level. Yet they can't even decide to put an interstate in without years of deliberation or keep track of illegals coming into our country. Really overestimating how organized they are. Yeah they can make someone disappear but keeping millions of people quiet and under control ain't happening.
Posted on 8/21/19 at 3:54 pm to The Funnie Five
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do you one better, I never even bought Osama Bin Laden as a real person. I always thought he was a western intelligence asset actor used as a general figurehead boogeyman to fear monger Americans into supporting war in the Middle East.
“It’s impossible that there’s a nefarious person on the other side of the world that hates Western civilization.”
Posted on 8/21/19 at 3:59 pm to The Funnie Five
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never bought that story for one second I'll do you one better, I never even bought Osama Bin Laden as a real person.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
Whatcha got?
And don’t give me any of this “well, you can’t disprove it” bullshite.
Posted on 8/21/19 at 4:01 pm to The Funnie Five
I’m skeptical but there are issues with the story in either case.
Discarding of the body by dumping it into the ocean is suspicious, and the fact that he was able to flee Afghanistan and live in Pakistan for so long seems ridiculous. His ability to avoid capture is even more dubious considering the fact that he had poor health including kidney issues. The supposed videos of him accepting blame of the 9/11 attacks are clearly a body double and not actually him.
On the flip side, risking two top secret stealth helicopters and our best Navy seal operators to kill a fake Bin Laden is a strange risk to make. Maybe the political benefits outweigh the risk? Also, the unannounced raid caused a relations nightmare with Pakistan, who could have disputed the story if it was indeed false in any way.
I think a third possibility is that he really was killed in that raid but that he had nothing to do with 9/11 and was simply a patsy with his whereabouts known all along.
We will never know.
Discarding of the body by dumping it into the ocean is suspicious, and the fact that he was able to flee Afghanistan and live in Pakistan for so long seems ridiculous. His ability to avoid capture is even more dubious considering the fact that he had poor health including kidney issues. The supposed videos of him accepting blame of the 9/11 attacks are clearly a body double and not actually him.
On the flip side, risking two top secret stealth helicopters and our best Navy seal operators to kill a fake Bin Laden is a strange risk to make. Maybe the political benefits outweigh the risk? Also, the unannounced raid caused a relations nightmare with Pakistan, who could have disputed the story if it was indeed false in any way.
I think a third possibility is that he really was killed in that raid but that he had nothing to do with 9/11 and was simply a patsy with his whereabouts known all along.
We will never know.
Posted on 8/21/19 at 4:07 pm to The Funnie Five
Are you questioning the validity of the Navy Seal's story on Kid Rock's Booze Cruise?
Posted on 8/21/19 at 4:10 pm to The Funnie Five
Unfortunately I must admit that I once believed that lie.
Now I realize Osama was already dead from natural causes and Seal Team 6 members were killed by the DS to tie up potential loose ends.
Apparently OBL died from natural causes. But hey, it was a great opportunity to leave a stealth helicopter for the enemy to recover technology from.
Now I realize Osama was already dead from natural causes and Seal Team 6 members were killed by the DS to tie up potential loose ends.
Apparently OBL died from natural causes. But hey, it was a great opportunity to leave a stealth helicopter for the enemy to recover technology from.
Posted on 8/21/19 at 4:11 pm to LSU2a
If you actually read anything beyond the "official" 9/11 report you would know that the story told by the government is the REAL conspiracy theory, and the most unbelievable explanation of all. Bin Laden was real. He was also a handy boogeyman to scare the American people with. The hijackers were aided and abetted by Bush's best pals the Saudis and it was allowed to happen by the Bush/Cheney cabal in order to drag us into war. Bin Laden may or may not have been killed in that raid (I tend to think he wasn't) but if he was he most certainly wasn't dumped at sea.
Posted on 8/21/19 at 4:14 pm to The Funnie Five
I believe it was the Space Force operating from their secret base in Antarctica (which will soon be moving to Greenland).
Posted on 8/21/19 at 4:18 pm to The Funnie Five
You need to start regulating your daily intake of 8chan
Posted on 8/21/19 at 4:18 pm to LB84
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Really overestimating how organized they are. Yeah they can make someone disappear but keeping millions of people quiet and under control ain't happening.
The government’s inability to keep a secret is probably one of the worst arguments against (insert government conspiracy here).
First of all, there are countless examples of large scale operations being conducted by the government and kept a secret for decades before it was either declassified or there was finally a leak. The Manhattan Project involved tens of thousands of individuals, yet only a handful of those people had enough knowledge to reveal the true purpose of the program. This is called “need to know”
or “compartmentalization” operations. There are countless covert and military operations that are never leaked or declassified. We are lucky enough to have discovered many operations that the public would have dismissed as being ludicrous such as MK ULTRA, chemical and biological weapons testing on the public, attempted coupes, CIA drug smuggling etc.
I’m not going to say that 9/11 was an inside job with confidence, but I’m not going to dismiss it as ridiculous either.
Posted on 8/21/19 at 4:19 pm to The Funnie Five
Yep, I believe that double-tap to the base of his nose punched his expiration card
Posted on 8/21/19 at 4:27 pm to Fun Bunch
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Yeah, pretty much everyone because that is what happened.
There is no way that you could say this with any degree of certainty given the dishonesty we've seen out of our government.
I think there a pretty decent chance that they just confirmed he was dead and decided to captitalize on the opportunity.
Posted on 8/21/19 at 4:28 pm to Vecchio Cane
Even the co-chair of the 9/11 commission, RepublicanTom Kean
said the investigation was stonewalled at every step of the way, he knows they were lied to, and the report is a fallacy.
said the investigation was stonewalled at every step of the way, he knows they were lied to, and the report is a fallacy.
Posted on 8/21/19 at 4:28 pm to The Funnie Five
quote:Definitely alive.
Does anyone actually believe Osama Bin Laden was killed by US forces in 2011
He was photographed earlier this year while meeting with Ayman al-Zawahiri, al Qaeda's 2nd in command.
Posted on 8/21/19 at 4:29 pm to LSU2a
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His ability to avoid capture is even more dubious considering the fact that he had poor health including kidney issues
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in a poor arse country. Works everytime.
Posted on 8/21/19 at 4:30 pm to The Funnie Five
The only thing I feel certain about concerning OBL is that he wasn't buried at sea. It didn't pass the BS test then and it doesn't pass the BS test now.
Posted on 8/21/19 at 4:34 pm to The Funnie Five
Threads like this are a great reminder that my reality, the one I know and easily accept as fact is outright rejected by some people.
Because of this, I can conclude that arguments (especially online) with some people are just pointless.
Yes, OBL is dead. Yes, he was killed in a Seal raid in Pakistan. If it were faked and directed by the US, there are an infinite number of scenarios that would have worked out much better, ones that don’t involve trashing secret military equipment or violating a sovereign ally’s territory to commit an assassination.
Any alternate conspiratorial explanation is just too difficult to coordinate to keep every conspirator on message without any leak for 8 whole years, especially given the political temptations to break rank. People just aren’t that good at lying for that long.
Because of this, I can conclude that arguments (especially online) with some people are just pointless.
Yes, OBL is dead. Yes, he was killed in a Seal raid in Pakistan. If it were faked and directed by the US, there are an infinite number of scenarios that would have worked out much better, ones that don’t involve trashing secret military equipment or violating a sovereign ally’s territory to commit an assassination.
Any alternate conspiratorial explanation is just too difficult to coordinate to keep every conspirator on message without any leak for 8 whole years, especially given the political temptations to break rank. People just aren’t that good at lying for that long.
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