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re: Do young people have it harder today? Did Boomers ruin everything?

Posted on 12/5/25 at 10:18 am to
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135787 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 10:18 am to
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Yeah keep being a “create shareholder value” corporate cuck
You have no clue as to WTF your talking about. None.
Posted by TheePalmetto
Member since Aug 2025
2170 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 10:39 am to
Actually I do. You’re the delusional one here. Do you really think this scrap heap furniture and appliance. They are making now will last 50-60 years? The Average sedan now has more plastic on it than the Kardashian clan.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
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Posted on 12/5/25 at 11:56 am to
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Actually I do.
No you don't.

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Do you really think ...
It isn't a matter of what "I think." It is a matter of fact. E.g., Cars in the 1970's were expected to last 5-6 yrs and 100K miles or less. Cars in the 2020's ... near 13yrs and 200K miles.

Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
25259 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 12:02 pm to
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I keep reading about how young adults have to deal with historically high college debt. We boomers had a solution for that back in the 1960s. If you didn't have money for college you skipped college and found a job.


An old friend paid his way through MIT with a part time job, but that was >40 years ago when tuition there was $2400. Can't do that these days.
Posted by Jimmy Russel
Member since Nov 2021
761 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 12:16 pm to
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I keep reading about how young adults have to deal with historically high college debt. We boomers had a solution for that back in the 1960s. If you didn't have money for college you skipped college and found a job.


No, your arse got sent to Vietnam to fuel the MIC. If you were lucky, you came home unscathed. It ain't the boomers folks...it's the unholy alliance among the progressives, Jews, Rockefellers, Fords, Vanderbilts, Carnegies, Astors, etc.

This post was edited on 12/5/25 at 12:18 pm
Posted by CTregistrar
Member since Aug 2024
107 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 12:19 pm to
For starters I'm a product of the Eisenhower era, wherever that puts me category-wise. My Dad was the breadwinner and Mom stayed home. He started off as a commercial artist eventually becoming an art director and lastly part-ownership in a printing business. So by our neighborhood standards, we were better off than most . . however Dad was tight with a dollar so, we never traveled by plane, rarely went on vacations and eating out was pizza on Friday nights. My Dad and his father built our very modest house of 3 bedrooms and 1 bath. Yes, my sister and I shared a bedroom as my brother rated his own room. We always had new outfits for the first day of school but otherwise Dad "barked" if we wanted more clothing. I doubt if I ruined anybody's life style today. Thanks to Dad I was taught the value of a dollar and hard work. Everything I have today is the result of heeding Dad's advice, working two jobs and save, save, save. My house too is small but cozy . . who needs a big house to maintain and heat in this day and age of out of sight electric/heating costs.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57028 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 12:24 pm to
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So let’s say our $80,000-a-year man is living in the Jacksonville area.


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They say F.M.R. for a three-bedroom home in the Jacksonville area is $2,163.


Why in the frick is a single guy renting a 3 bedroom home? You know the size of the places i lived in when i was in my 20s? 1 bedroom. The number of rooms only increased if i had roommates. Asinine article from the bitchy crowd who have unrealistic expectations of how life works.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57028 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 12:27 pm to
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My daughter told me today that the average age of a first home buyer is 38 years old now!


People aren't getting married in their 20s anymore. Usually they are in the early 30s.

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My daughter and husband are both professionals and can only afford a $380 to $400 thousand home at the max now.


The HORROR!!!! My first home was less than $300k.

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A $300 thousand home is a shite hole now


If you are attempting to live in downtown wherever, yeah. If you live in suburbia, not really.
Posted by Rohan Gravy
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2017
20728 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 12:41 pm to
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They may not be able to afford a home, but its their fault.


Really?
They can afford $380. - $400, but pricing and insurance is out of control


quote:A $300 thousand home is a shite hole now
Tell them to move somewhere else.


They are renting now in a nice apartment
Looking to buy their first home
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26950 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 1:24 pm to
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Saying “nothing is fair” is not an argument. It avoids the question.


This is you, right?
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Life is not always fair.


WTF are you arguing about? We agree, people aren't born under the same circumstances. It's just reality.

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If you think pricing elderly people out of their homes is only “unfortunate” rather than unjust, explain the principle that makes that distinction.


Because just about every definition of "justice" includes the concept of treating people equally. You haven't been treated unequally because your rent went up.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10782 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 1:30 pm to
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Because just about every definition of "justice" includes the concept of treating people equally.


Either that or a promise that the rent would never go up. Which I highly doubt exists for almost anyone.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26950 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 1:32 pm to
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Either that or a promise that the rent would never go up. Which I highly doubt exists for almost anyone.


She also keeps using the word "structural", I suspect for the same reason people talk about "systemic" racism.
Posted by Undertow
Member since Sep 2016
8907 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 1:39 pm to
I think it’s kind of both. Children have it easier than ever, but these same children enter adulthood entirely unprepared and handicapped.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
39951 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 1:55 pm to
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I've got 2 step-daughters. One 34 and one 25. Neither of them ever have the money for the things they need but they always have the money for the things they want. Everytime I see them they have new phone or new electronics or new tattoos or WEED. Yet they don't have the money for food or rent. I'm to the point I ain't giving them shite.

The oldest one has 4 kids. One half black, one half asian, one half mexican and one all white (she's white). No husband.


roll tide
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
67648 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 1:58 pm to
Here's a rational thought. Older men have had more time to build a lucrative career.
Posted by extremetigerfanatic
Member since Oct 2003
5851 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 2:14 pm to
Stossel debunks memes
Stossel did a good video on this debunking all this bullshite.
Houses were way smaller and not close to as nice as now, cars weren't as reliable or efficient. People didn't eat out at all. And practically no one put their kids thru college in any way.

Young people are just entitled now. I had to live in a mobile home for the first three years of my marriage because we got married young, wanted no one telling us what to do and were intent on not relying on anyone but ourselves. Our families weren't jacked we got married so young.

Then when we got our first house (not in 1950 or 70, but in 2001) it was a whopping 1190 sf. I raised two kids there. And yes I have significantly upgraded.

But when I tell the young people at work I started in a trailer, they gasp.

Yeah. A trailer, with no internet, no TV, no home phone even and one car between the two of us that we didn't even own, we leased because that's all we could do at the time.

They think I am joking.

There is plenty of opportunity for people who want it.



It's sad, but the only people who want it like that aren't even from the US.



I'll add one thing.... if young people want to be mad at the world that they were born into, then they really ought to be behind RKFJR. Because that is the one place I think they have a legitimate gripe. The processed food of the supermarket today is not good for you anymore and the pharma/med community has turned on the very people they are supposed to protect.
This post was edited on 12/5/25 at 3:38 pm
Posted by RollTide4547
Member since Dec 2024
3649 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 2:22 pm to
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Cars in the 1970's were expected to last 5-6 yrs and 100K miles or less.
This is pretty spot on. That's why the older cars used 10w40 or 20w50. The tolerances were not nearly as tight as they are today. The thicker oil was used to fill the space. Older vehicles used "leaded" gasoline for "anti-knock" and to prevent wear in the valves and valve guides. Lead was added to gasoline prior to the early 70's.

I'm currently driving a 2010 ford fiesta manual with 296000 miles.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135787 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 2:26 pm to
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Looking to buy their first home
In this market they might be better off waiting a year or so.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135787 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 2:31 pm to
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Because just about every definition of "justice" includes the concept of treating people equally.
Treating people equally is desirable.
Treating people so as to ensure equal outcome is not.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
52597 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 2:39 pm to
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Why in the frick is a single guy renting a 3 bedroom home? You know the size of the places i lived in when i was in my 20s? 1 bedroom. The number of rooms only increased if i had roommates. Asinine article from the bitchy crowd who have unrealistic expectations of how life works.

The article agreed with you.
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