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re: Do young people have it harder today? Did Boomers ruin everything?

Posted on 12/5/25 at 5:32 am to
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 12/5/25 at 5:32 am to
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Did not read.

You aren’t entitled to shite.

Work and sacrifice is your ticket.

Had you read it you would not have posted this.
Posted by BHS78
Member since May 2017
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Posted on 12/5/25 at 7:07 am to
People that complain about rent should save up and travel a bit. In Amsterdam I spoke to a man that said a 10 meter squeed apartment was over 1000 euros, and the bathroom was communal. I had dorm room flashbacks
Posted by RollTide4547
Member since Dec 2024
4669 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 7:17 am to
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The boomer parents need to give them some of their inheritance upfront. You can give 19 grand to child and spouse.
Screw That! Parents supported them for 18+ years. Time for the kids to stand on their own. Money they didn't earn will be blown in no time. I earned my money and I'm going to enjoy it. There will be no inheritance left by me.

I've got 2 step-daughters. One 34 and one 25. Neither of them ever have the money for the things they need but they always have the money for the things they want. Everytime I see them they have new phone or new electronics or new tattoos or WEED. Yet they don't have the money for food or rent. I'm to the point I ain't giving them shite.

The oldest one has 4 kids. One half black, one half asian, one half mexican and one all white (she's white). No husband.
Posted by BamaAggiemom
Member since Aug 2019
543 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 7:25 am to
Or go to community college for 2 years and then transfer. That's what my husband did. My husband was 27 when he graduated college. He worked the entire time he was in college. He had to take some semesters off to work.

That actually helped him in the long run with his career.
Posted by themunch
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Posted on 12/5/25 at 7:30 am to
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That's because you could actually get hired while doing so.


How about the best question of the day was, 'what's your draft number' and no thanks your too close
Posted by captainFid
Never apologize to barbarism
Member since Dec 2014
10535 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 7:34 am to
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Not the Boomers fault, but I do think the young generation has it rougher when it comes to purchasing power.


Agreed... Yet the funny thing is, they actually brought some of this on... by electing Democrats and pushing for the far left agenda.

All of those 20' somethings on reddit wanted their gig economy, and for barista 'professionals' to be put through graduate school on the coffee shops' dime. The demanded a job at McDonalds must pay a living wage.

Covid then encourage this kind of thinking. Anyone remember service workers making more money staying home than working at their eatery. Restaurant owners certain do.

Now its kind of funny to watch.

I do feel for them... and I'm even caught in the "I won't be able to own another home, but did I ever really" bubble. I rent. 6 years ago, before covid, many of the homes in this area of Vestavia couldn't be given away for $200 k. Then something happened, real or artificial, it caused a buying frenzy and has been that way ever since. 1200 sq ft homes started selling for $800k, 3 years ago.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138850 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 7:34 am to
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Today that house is worth about $475k
At one point, certain tulip bulbs were "worth about" 10x the average Dutch income .... and then they weren't. Supply-demand is a real thing. So are life and time realities.

When covid undercut social experience availability for 23-38y/o's, there was a certain reconsidering of life goals.

First, for the older female contingent of that group, the ticking of their biological clocks suddenly exploded like the opening of Pink Floyd's "Time".

Second, there was a realization, especially for the thirty-something cohort, that the delay in life commitments such as marriage, home purchase, etc might not have been the best decision. Both factors drove a sudden race to home ownership at exactly the time home loan rates were escalating. Demand drove prices.

Right now we're likely in a home price bubble. So your $475K home is probably overpriced. Such things correct. For first time buyers though, a housing bubble is an unforgiving minefield.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61364 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 7:39 am to
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At one point, certain tulip bulbs were "worth about" 10x the average Dutch income .... and then they weren't. Supply-demand is a real thing. So are life and time realities.


So, in other words, “oh well.”


My biggest critique of the boomer generation is your glaring lack of empathy.

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Second, there was a realization, especially for the thirty-something cohort, that the delay in life commitments such as marriage, home purchase, etc might not have been the best decision

Many of us also made the terrible decision to graduate from college in 2008 and 2009. We should have decided to be born a few years earlier. Would have saved a lot of stress.



Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138850 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 8:08 am to
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People that complain about rent should save up and travel a bit. In Amsterdam I spoke to a man that said a 10 meter squeed apartment was over 1000 euros, and the bathroom was communal. I had dorm room flashbacks
The interesting thing I've found in similar conversations over there is that the European guy is a-okay with his lot. Meanwhile young Americans lament not being able to swing a 3500sq-ft country club mcmansion.

The latter, however unrealistic, is not even the problematic issue though. The problem is, those same folks not only lament their situation, but they inexplicably blame it on others.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
23998 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 8:19 am to
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Or go to community college for 2 years and then transfer. That's what my husband did.

I'm assuming your husband didn't end up in a university that required a one to two hundred thousand dollar debt to get out. In the Northeast, those kids demand a half a million dollar education from their parents.
Posted by Ozarkshillbilly
Missouri Ozarks
Member since Apr 2025
540 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 8:19 am to
Yeah, it's crazy to see the housing boom. I'm on the good side of it, but I find it hard to believe it's real. We bought a 3600ish sq ft house for about 390K in the summer of 2020. Now it's worth like 700K...ok...really. Doesn't matter, our kids will inherit this place at some point.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13431 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 8:31 am to
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By every mathematical measure, yes. Real wages and purchasing power relative to cost of living are WAY down compared to literally any other "modern" generation. By all accounts, youth are living in conditions not seen since the Great Depression. The labor market is broken, housing has never been more expensive, food is unaffordable, people are putting off marriage and children longer and longer due to financial hardship, etc.


This comes up every so often and a few times before I have looked up and broken all of those costs down adjusted for inflation and factors like the actual size of the houses in question, and I have found just about everything you claimed above to be false.

Except for this:
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people are putting off marriage and children longer and longer due to financial hardship, etc
, but even then I dispute the reason people are putting off having kids and getting married.

I'm not going to do that analysis again because it's time consuming and it doesn't make any difference to people when you show it to them anyway.

The media keeps pushing the narrative you're repeating and lots of people (for some reason) want to believe it. I think it ties into the popularity of populism. In any case, people do not care about the facts and the math. They want to believe life is harder now than it ever has been (while they are ordering DoorDash delivery on their phones for the 8th time that week, devices more powerful than just about any computer that existed when I was a kid), so they do, regardless of what the facts are.

It used to be old people that you had to sit there and listen to about how they used to have to walk barefoot in the snow uphill both ways five miles to school.

Now it's people in their 20s.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13431 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 8:32 am to
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Doesn't matter, our kids will inherit this place at some point.


And that's the thing.

Millennials are about to become the beneficiaries of the largest wealth transfer in history.

Doesn't matter. They're still beaten down, trodden upon slaves.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138850 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 8:34 am to
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My biggest critique of the boomer generation is your glaring lack of empathy.
Interesting. Certainly that is a pervasive narrative in these threads. Even more interesting in that about 40% of boomers have millennial children. That should serve as a solid hint regarding "empathy".

My biggest critique of the millennial generation is your stereotypic and glaring lack of accurate perception. If time machines were a real thing, and millennials could substitute their current experience to the actual experience of "boomer life" growing up, they'd be fit to be tied in that lifestyle. It is what it is.

But to be clear, as I've stated repeatedly, the current situation (more applicable to GenZ) is very challenging. I'm beyond empathetic, I am sympathetic to that challenge. But in these threads, statements such as "No generation has had it as hard as millennials" are not really empathy engendering assertions.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28127 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 8:36 am to
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So, in other words, “oh well.”


My biggest critique of the boomer generation is your glaring lack of empathy.




And your solution is to call it an "injustice", then double-pinky-swear that you don't want any government action taken to fix it. You may as well say "oh well" too, because it has the same outcome.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61364 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 8:36 am to
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People that complain about rent should save up and travel a bit. I


I’m sorry - your recommendation for people who can’t afford rent is to “save up” and take a European vacation?

What planet am I on?
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61364 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 8:38 am to
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And your solution is to call it an "injustice", then double-pinky-swear that you don't want any government action taken to fix it. You may as well say "oh well" too, because it has the same outcome.

I’m flattered that you seem to be implying that I should have solved injustice by now.

Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
20071 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 8:39 am to
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Do young people have it harder today? Did Boomers ruin everything?

Yes. Anyone who disagrees is not be honest. Look at wage growth vs prices. Its that simple
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28127 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 8:39 am to
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I’m flattered that you seem to be implying that I should have solved injustice by now.




You don't WANT government action taken to solve it. You just want to virtue signal that you feel worse about it than others.
Posted by Ozarkshillbilly
Missouri Ozarks
Member since Apr 2025
540 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 8:41 am to
Valid, hopefully their folks taught them how to manage it successfully.
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