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re: Do vaxxers realize the anti-vaxx fight is about freedom and autonomy?
Posted on 9/15/21 at 9:23 am to mouton
Posted on 9/15/21 at 9:23 am to mouton
quote:Meh, it's not the mere talking about it. It's the poor arguments and the lumping of everyone into two categories. It makes me wonder about a lot of poster's thinking abilities. The ignorance on exactly how a vaccine works and why one disease can be basically stomped out while others can't, is simply sad.
Don’t get it if you don’t want it. Just shut the Fuchs up about it.
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Posted on 9/15/21 at 9:25 am to AlxTgr
My feelings also.
Posted on 9/15/21 at 9:47 am to icheerforgeorgia
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People should be free to do whatever they want with their own bodies. Like, if I want to drink four liters of vodka and drive my Hummer down the highway, it is my right to be free and autonomous to do so.
Agree. And if you kill someone you should be charged with murder. Or you damage property you should be charged under the appropriate laws for just recompense.
Posted on 9/15/21 at 9:50 am to Powerman
The virus is real. How its portrayed versus what it actually is, is an absolute fabrication.
Posted on 9/15/21 at 9:54 am to GumboPot
Of course they do. That is the fight that should be being fought. Instead anti vaxxers are trying to be scientists. That is why they are losing the debate. Stick with freedoms, stick with rights, stay away from the vax itself.
Posted on 9/15/21 at 9:54 am to Vacherie Saint
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The virus is real. How its portrayed versus what it actually is, is an absolute fabrication.
The data on what it actually is is readily available though.
Posted on 9/15/21 at 9:56 am to tigerfoot
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Of course they do. That is the fight that should be being fought. Instead anti vaxxers are trying to be scientists. That is why they are losing the debate. Stick with freedoms, stick with rights, stay away from the vax itself.
Agree with this
Trying to play YouTube scientist is a losing proposition that only opens people up to ridicule.
Posted on 9/15/21 at 9:58 am to GumboPot
Then why are 90%+ of the COVID posts on here nonsense conspiracy theories about how the vaccines don't work, or are causing mutations or killing thousands of people?
If the fight was really about freedom and autonomy you would think that would be what people would post about.
I suspect most people put on their team jerseys and just look for things to justify their beliefs. Which is a shame.
I WISH most of our discussion was about mandates and the balance of freedom vs public safety. I think the Biden mandate is a ridiculous overreach. Instead it's "vaccines are the devil!!"
If the fight was really about freedom and autonomy you would think that would be what people would post about.
I suspect most people put on their team jerseys and just look for things to justify their beliefs. Which is a shame.
I WISH most of our discussion was about mandates and the balance of freedom vs public safety. I think the Biden mandate is a ridiculous overreach. Instead it's "vaccines are the devil!!"
Posted on 9/15/21 at 10:03 am to Powerman
No it isnt. Deaths are insanely inflated with hospice patients all the way on down to accidental deaths. Cases are littered with false and presumptive positives. We have no data on natural immunity and zero work is being done to research treatments outside those approved by the big pharma sugar daddys. The actual efficacy of the savior vaccines is being kept from us. shite, dem leaders have been dead silent on ending GOF!
The West is behaving as though this is the black plague, and using that as a lever to give themselves unlimited power at our expense. There's nothing you can say to change that and if this were happening with Republican leaders, you'd be chaining yourself to a column at the Capital right now and you know it.
The West is behaving as though this is the black plague, and using that as a lever to give themselves unlimited power at our expense. There's nothing you can say to change that and if this were happening with Republican leaders, you'd be chaining yourself to a column at the Capital right now and you know it.
This post was edited on 9/15/21 at 10:07 am
Posted on 9/15/21 at 10:13 am to Powerman
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The data on what it actually is is readily available though.
What percentage of patients hospitalized as Covid patients were admitted for Covid?
What percentage of Covid deaths are really Covid deaths?
Posted on 9/15/21 at 10:19 am to BigJim
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are causing mutations
Immune escape is real. If it were not real we would not be talking about boosters.
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killing thousands of people
According to the CDC as of 01/01/2021 to 09/03/2021 537,963 have reported some side effect or complication. 6771 have died.
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If the fight was really about freedom and autonomy you would think that would be what people would post about.
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I WISH most of our discussion was about mandates and the balance of freedom vs public safety. I think the Biden mandate is a ridiculous overreach. Instead it's "vaccines are the devil!!"
I believe if the policy makers were honest they would focus on the most vulnerable. There is an incredible correlation between COVID deaths and age and obesity.
Posted on 9/15/21 at 10:36 am to GumboPot
Not really about freedom. More like trying to win Darwin awards.
Posted on 9/15/21 at 10:38 am to MilwaukeeKosherDills
Post less.
Posted on 9/15/21 at 10:39 am to GumboPot
Yes
The Covidian Cult don't care. THeir desire is to destroy all of your liberty.
The Covidian Cult don't care. THeir desire is to destroy all of your liberty.
Posted on 9/15/21 at 10:42 am to GumboPot
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According to the CDC as of 01/01/2021 to 09/03/2021 537,963 have reported some side effect or complication. 6771 have died.
No, according to the CDC:
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Reports of death after COVID-19 vaccination are rare. More than 380 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines were administered in the United States from December 14, 2020, through September 13, 2021. During this time, VAERS received 7,653 reports of death (0.0020%) among people who received a COVID-19 vaccine. FDA requires healthcare providers to report any death after COVID-19 vaccination to VAERS, even if it’s unclear whether the vaccine was the cause. Reports of adverse events to VAERS following vaccination, including deaths, do not necessarily mean that a vaccine caused a health problem. A review of available clinical information, including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records, has not established a causal link to COVID-19 vaccines.
Basically, everything you post about the virus or vaccines is wrong.
Posted on 9/15/21 at 10:42 am to ShakeandBake
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GW did not vaccinate his troops from smallpox. He innoculated them. Smallpox vaccine was not developed until 1796.
Was this supposed to be a gotcha?
Posted on 9/15/21 at 10:58 am to AlxTgr
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A review of available clinical information, including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records, has not established a causal link to COVID-19 vaccines.
Here’s a fella who thinks they’re looking for causal links. Lol.
Posted on 9/15/21 at 11:16 am to the808bass
This fight, at least to me, is about how for a very long time we as society had agreed and understood someone’s medical information was private to all but then and their doctor. We agreed adults had the right to refuse medical treatments. This was a pretty sacred thing that it felt like everyone agreed on. Now that is being completely trampled all over is bad enough, but if they will come and destroy one sacred held belief what others will they come for? I won’t be moved off this hill I’ll fight and die on it
Posted on 9/15/21 at 11:21 am to AlxTgr
Covid deaths are reported the exact same way. In the UK, ANY death within 28 days of a positive test is categorized as a covid death.
You don’t get to March around citing covid deaths as a reason to mandate vaccines while dismissing vaccine deaths counted in much the same way.
You don’t get to March around citing covid deaths as a reason to mandate vaccines while dismissing vaccine deaths counted in much the same way.
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