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Do vaxxers realize the anti-vaxx fight is about freedom and autonomy?

Posted on 9/14/21 at 9:51 pm
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118771 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 9:51 pm
Once you lose freedom you never learn what it’s like to have it. You think the Chinese people and North Korean people know what freedom is? frick no. They have no idea what it means to speak freely, travel between neighborhoods, cities, states, and most counties. They have no idea what it means to own property.

AND THEY HAVE NO IDEA THEIR BODY IS NOT A STATE ASSET.

Once you lose freedom, whether incremental or sudden, the number of deaths to reacquire said freedom will dwarf COVID deaths.

This is a proven historical fact. The 20th century was the most deadly century in world history. People say it can’t happen in the US? Guess what? US persons are not immune from human nature.

How much freedom are you willing to give up?

Posted by mouton
Savannah,Ga
Member since Aug 2006
28276 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 9:53 pm to
Yes
Posted by mouton
Savannah,Ga
Member since Aug 2006
28276 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 9:54 pm to
Don’t get it if you don’t want it. Just shut the Fuchs up about it.
Posted by UsingUpAllTheLetters
Stuck in Transfer Portal
Member since Aug 2011
8508 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 9:55 pm to
I think we should call them vascists.
This post was edited on 9/14/21 at 9:55 pm
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118771 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 9:58 pm to
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Don’t get it if you don’t want it. Just shut the Fuchs up about it.



Right. If this were only the case. However in many cases people are having to choose between taking a medication or their livelihood or show a vaccine passport to travel.

When all you need is the vaccine to protect yourself if you are scared of unvaxxed.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98759 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 9:58 pm to
No
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
19276 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 9:59 pm to
does most of the world understand they belong to Satan? nope
Posted by roux
Tiger Territory
Member since Dec 2006
1590 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 9:59 pm to
I'm not an anti-vaxxer. I'm against forcing anyone to get a medical treatment they don't want.

FWIW-These are not vaccines, they are therapeutics. Vaccines immunize, these only have some protection.
Posted by goldennugget
Hating Masks
Member since Jul 2013
24514 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 10:00 pm to
They are trying to make it about "the science" and being an "anti-vaxxer" because they know deep down what its really about, freedom to choose what we decide to put into our own bodies.

If the government can force you to put something into your own body against your will, there is no limits to their power. We then become subjects instead of citizens.

It's about the long game and big picture. That is why the pro mandate crowd is trying to make it about science denying.
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 10:00 pm to
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Just shut the Fuchs up about it.


That is hard to do when the govt and a large percentage of the citizens are ready to cancel anyone that hasn't taken the vax.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19227 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 10:01 pm to
I believe they understand that it means losing their freedom.

I don't believe they want or like freedom.
This post was edited on 9/14/21 at 10:02 pm
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
105407 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 10:06 pm to
No they don’t


I see “friends” post their anger towards folks hesitant to take the Covid vaccine as if they are purposely trying to kill people. They don’t care about freedoms. It is truly pathetic and sad.
Posted by The Eric
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
20989 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 10:09 pm to
Many of these people are blinded by atleast 1 of 3 things

The media

The government

Their fear.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34141 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 10:14 pm to
I’m not anti-vaccine.

I am anti-mandate (even through coercion).

These acts, no matter how many “outs” are given, are examples of government overreach stained with a hefty dose of totalitarian influenced tactics. It is tyranny under the guise of public health. Just look at how the VP recently portrayed the circumstances. Only a fool would defend this course of action.
Posted by TigerVespamon
Member since Dec 2010
6064 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 10:17 pm to
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Don’t get it if you don’t want it. Just shut the Fuchs up about it.
Your President is trying to force it on American citizens against their will, idiot.

And as always, here’s your sign…

Posted by Markie812
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2007
2934 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 10:25 pm to
quote:

I don't believe they want or like freedom.



They want power, even if it is in an illusionary sense which gives them pleasure.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19227 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 10:28 pm to
As in they support the restrictions, because it gives them power over the people opposed to mandatory vaccines?

If so, yes, I agree that's part of it
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162220 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 10:29 pm to
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I see “friends” post their anger towards folks hesitant to take the Covid vaccine as if they are purposely trying to kill people. They don’t care about freedoms. It is truly pathetic and sad.

I have a friend who thought covid was a hoax. He stopped believing that when he lost his dad. (Vaccine wasn't available then)

He has now lost his sister and his sister in law both of which may have had their lives saved if they got it.

Posted by mydadownsadealership
Member since Jan 2020
23 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 10:33 pm to
don't be a huge vagine. don't get it. who cares?

but don't whine about losing your health insurance, getting fired, being blocked from flying, or anything else... stick to your guns...

and BY ALL MEANS .. DO NOT go to a hospital and beg the people you're accusing of vast conspiracies to save your a$$, you hypocrite.

be a man. stay home and die.
Posted by RollingwiththeTide
Member since Oct 2020
3681 posts
Posted on 9/14/21 at 10:38 pm to
I am fully vaccinated but I mainly did it for other people. I am around a person that has a compromised immune system a lot. So that’s basically why I decided to get the jab. But in no way do I think people should be forced to get it. I fully support peoples right to make their own decisions about being vaccinated. So fight own Sir I support you!!!
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