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re: Do Rogan/libertarian bros understand what it would take to do things they bitch about?
Posted on 8/19/26 at 12:53 am to Bjorn Cyborg
Posted on 8/19/26 at 12:53 am to Bjorn Cyborg
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Let’s here what?
Where does the newly printed money that the entire country is in debt get it's value from?
Who is so rich they can afford to loan the US trillions of dollars.
Or you can just admit it's a scam if you'd like.
Posted on 8/19/26 at 5:13 am to GreatLakesTiger24
quote:But how about us more imperialist conservatives?
Libertarians are retarded Traditional conservatism with a heavy dose of nationalism is the only path forward
This post was edited on 8/19/26 at 5:14 am
Posted on 8/19/26 at 5:45 am to The Eric
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For the record, I do think there are portions of the population that probably need our help (severely mentally handicapped, severely physically handicapped) but I think that portion of the population is extremely extremely low.
Agree 100%. Never had an issue at all with society helping those who truly have physical or mental limitations.
The vast majority of people out there demanding to be taken care of are not those with such limitations.
Posted on 8/19/26 at 8:07 am to burger bearcat
Rogan's default is leftist secularism, how he was raised.
Posted on 8/19/26 at 9:46 am to Boom33
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Who is so rich they can afford to loan the US trillions of dollars.
Perhaps you are aware of government backed securities like bonds?
The largest percentage of U.S. debt is held by banks, investment funds, insurance companies, mutual funds, IRAs, individual investors, etc. Foreign governments own about 25 percent.
Posted on 8/19/26 at 10:18 am to Aubie Spr96
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I can assure you that if either man were alive today,
Well then you have no clue what you are talking about or about what either man believed
Posted on 8/19/26 at 10:24 am to Undertow
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I watch Rogan a lot but he frustrates me sometimes. He will display great common sense often. But then he’ll have moments where he just has no clue how things work.
He's both pragmatic and idealistic. He was raised by hippies, but also has real world experience.
If you take him as a whole, I'd say he's about as dead center politically as you'll find.
Posted on 8/19/26 at 11:06 am to Bjorn Cyborg
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Perhaps you are aware of government backed securities like bonds?
The largest percentage of U.S. debt is held by banks, investment funds, insurance companies, mutual funds, IRAs, individual investors, etc. Foreign governments own about 25 percent.
You failed to answer the question.
Posted on 8/19/26 at 12:56 pm to burger bearcat
Libertarians who bitch about the process are not interested in getting down and fixing the process. They write notes like Massey. They push bills that fail. They want all or nothing and then they go home and blame everyone else.
Posted on 8/19/26 at 1:01 pm to burger bearcat
Libertarians don't even know what they want.
Some are for open borders.
Some are for open borders.
Posted on 8/19/26 at 4:06 pm to Boom33
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You failed to answer the question.
Your question was: "Who is so rich they can afford to loan the US trillions of dollars?"
I did answer it. There is no one person or group, but collectively there are millions of individuals, companies, funds, governments, etc.
Posted on 8/19/26 at 4:12 pm to burger bearcat
They're not Libertarians, they're 2nd world Isolationists
Posted on 8/19/26 at 4:18 pm to dgnx6
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Libertarians don't even know what they want. Some are for open borders.
So are some republicans. So are all democrats. You’ll find they’re all funded by the same donors.
Posted on 8/19/26 at 4:56 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
Libertarians will die with Gen X. What a gay waste of time being a libertarian is.
Posted on 8/19/26 at 5:10 pm to NIH
This post was edited on 8/19/26 at 6:12 pm
Posted on 8/19/26 at 6:06 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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Your question was: "Who is so rich they can afford to loan the US trillions of dollars?"
I did answer it. There is no one person or group, but collectively there are millions of individuals, companies, funds, governments, etc.
No, you didn't answer it.
You are trying to tell me what people are doing with the money AFTER it's created. $40 trillion didn't just up and start one day. That money has to exist before it can be spent in bonds etc.
I didn't ask you how people are spending the money after so they can bleed interest off the American people with a practice that use to be outlawed across all religions. I asked you where did the 40 trillion come from to start with.
And since we both know banks just printed that shite up, then let's talk about where its value came from. AKA the actual wealth. $2 out of $100 is 2% of the money supply, someone comes along and prints another $100 and now the $2 is only 1% of the money supply. The actual wealth, aka purchasing power, was stolen.
And yet now the American people are said to owe interest on the money that was created.
Btw, since all money is issued as debt, due back with usury/interest, how is it even possible for people to pay that debt back? $100 is issued as a loan, so the person owes say $105 back. Where does that extra $5 come from?
Maybe that's what the shite use to be illegal.
This post was edited on 8/19/26 at 6:29 pm
Posted on 8/19/26 at 7:05 pm to burger bearcat
There are two ways out of the debt problem:
Drastically reduce all government functions but maintain current taxation. So essentially, you get nothing and they take money from you.
- OR -
We drastically increase taxation to maintain current levels of government functions. So essentially, you have more money taken but we get to keep things that people now expect as table stakes in any retirement plan, infrastructure capacity, education, welfare, etc.
Seeing how we consistently decide to reduce taxes but trim around the edges on government functions over the last 50 years, I got to assume we want the functions but think we can pay nothing for it. The days of that are coming to the end.
Drastically reduce all government functions but maintain current taxation. So essentially, you get nothing and they take money from you.
- OR -
We drastically increase taxation to maintain current levels of government functions. So essentially, you have more money taken but we get to keep things that people now expect as table stakes in any retirement plan, infrastructure capacity, education, welfare, etc.
Seeing how we consistently decide to reduce taxes but trim around the edges on government functions over the last 50 years, I got to assume we want the functions but think we can pay nothing for it. The days of that are coming to the end.
Posted on 8/19/26 at 7:06 pm to The Pirate King
Hard to not like the guy. He's done a lot of different things in his life. A renaissance man if you will.
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