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re: Do Rogan/libertarian bros understand what it would take to do things they bitch about?

Posted on 8/19/26 at 12:53 am to
Posted by Boom33
Member since Jul 2026
597 posts
Posted on 8/19/26 at 12:53 am to
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Let’s here what?


Where does the newly printed money that the entire country is in debt get it's value from?

Who is so rich they can afford to loan the US trillions of dollars.

Or you can just admit it's a scam if you'd like.
Posted by VooDude
Member since Aug 2017
3621 posts
Posted on 8/19/26 at 5:13 am to
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Libertarians are retarded Traditional conservatism with a heavy dose of nationalism is the only path forward
But how about us more imperialist conservatives?
This post was edited on 8/19/26 at 5:14 am
Posted by Great Plains Drifter
Flyover, U.S.A.
Member since Jul 2019
10610 posts
Posted on 8/19/26 at 5:45 am to
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For the record, I do think there are portions of the population that probably need our help (severely mentally handicapped, severely physically handicapped) but I think that portion of the population is extremely extremely low.


Agree 100%. Never had an issue at all with society helping those who truly have physical or mental limitations.

The vast majority of people out there demanding to be taken care of are not those with such limitations.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16534 posts
Posted on 8/19/26 at 8:07 am to
Rogan's default is leftist secularism, how he was raised.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
36636 posts
Posted on 8/19/26 at 9:46 am to
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Who is so rich they can afford to loan the US trillions of dollars.


Perhaps you are aware of government backed securities like bonds?

The largest percentage of U.S. debt is held by banks, investment funds, insurance companies, mutual funds, IRAs, individual investors, etc. Foreign governments own about 25 percent.

Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
6388 posts
Posted on 8/19/26 at 10:18 am to
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I can assure you that if either man were alive today,


Well then you have no clue what you are talking about or about what either man believed
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
69783 posts
Posted on 8/19/26 at 10:24 am to
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I watch Rogan a lot but he frustrates me sometimes. He will display great common sense often. But then he’ll have moments where he just has no clue how things work.

He's both pragmatic and idealistic. He was raised by hippies, but also has real world experience.

If you take him as a whole, I'd say he's about as dead center politically as you'll find.
Posted by Boom33
Member since Jul 2026
597 posts
Posted on 8/19/26 at 11:06 am to
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Perhaps you are aware of government backed securities like bonds?

The largest percentage of U.S. debt is held by banks, investment funds, insurance companies, mutual funds, IRAs, individual investors, etc. Foreign governments own about 25 percent.


You failed to answer the question.

Posted by winkchance
St. George, LA
Member since Jul 2016
6830 posts
Posted on 8/19/26 at 12:56 pm to
Libertarians who bitch about the process are not interested in getting down and fixing the process. They write notes like Massey. They push bills that fail. They want all or nothing and then they go home and blame everyone else.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
91720 posts
Posted on 8/19/26 at 1:01 pm to
Libertarians don't even know what they want.


Some are for open borders.

Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
36636 posts
Posted on 8/19/26 at 4:06 pm to
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You failed to answer the question.


Your question was: "Who is so rich they can afford to loan the US trillions of dollars?"

I did answer it. There is no one person or group, but collectively there are millions of individuals, companies, funds, governments, etc.


Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
40231 posts
Posted on 8/19/26 at 4:12 pm to
They're not Libertarians, they're 2nd world Isolationists
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
71229 posts
Posted on 8/19/26 at 4:18 pm to
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Libertarians don't even know what they want. Some are for open borders.


So are some republicans. So are all democrats. You’ll find they’re all funded by the same donors.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
125127 posts
Posted on 8/19/26 at 4:56 pm to
Libertarians will die with Gen X. What a gay waste of time being a libertarian is.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
70192 posts
Posted on 8/19/26 at 5:10 pm to
You’re breaking my heart. I just learned a lot from this interview. And for anyone who thinks this is all TDS, Scott just absolutely eviscerated Biden at the end.
This post was edited on 8/19/26 at 6:12 pm
Posted by Boom33
Member since Jul 2026
597 posts
Posted on 8/19/26 at 6:06 pm to
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Your question was: "Who is so rich they can afford to loan the US trillions of dollars?"

I did answer it. There is no one person or group, but collectively there are millions of individuals, companies, funds, governments, etc.


No, you didn't answer it.

You are trying to tell me what people are doing with the money AFTER it's created. $40 trillion didn't just up and start one day. That money has to exist before it can be spent in bonds etc.

I didn't ask you how people are spending the money after so they can bleed interest off the American people with a practice that use to be outlawed across all religions. I asked you where did the 40 trillion come from to start with.

And since we both know banks just printed that shite up, then let's talk about where its value came from. AKA the actual wealth. $2 out of $100 is 2% of the money supply, someone comes along and prints another $100 and now the $2 is only 1% of the money supply. The actual wealth, aka purchasing power, was stolen.

And yet now the American people are said to owe interest on the money that was created.

Btw, since all money is issued as debt, due back with usury/interest, how is it even possible for people to pay that debt back? $100 is issued as a loan, so the person owes say $105 back. Where does that extra $5 come from?

Maybe that's what the shite use to be illegal.


This post was edited on 8/19/26 at 6:29 pm
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
13944 posts
Posted on 8/19/26 at 7:05 pm to
There are two ways out of the debt problem:

Drastically reduce all government functions but maintain current taxation. So essentially, you get nothing and they take money from you.

- OR -

We drastically increase taxation to maintain current levels of government functions. So essentially, you have more money taken but we get to keep things that people now expect as table stakes in any retirement plan, infrastructure capacity, education, welfare, etc.


Seeing how we consistently decide to reduce taxes but trim around the edges on government functions over the last 50 years, I got to assume we want the functions but think we can pay nothing for it. The days of that are coming to the end.
Posted by theballguy
HSV (Dealing only in satire)
Member since Oct 2011
41061 posts
Posted on 8/19/26 at 7:06 pm to
Hard to not like the guy. He's done a lot of different things in his life. A renaissance man if you will.
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