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re: Do Rogan/libertarian bros understand what it would take to do things they bitch about?

Posted on 8/18/26 at 1:44 pm to
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
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Posted on 8/18/26 at 1:44 pm to
Virtually all of the Founding Fathers would be considered Libertarians.
Posted by burger bearcat
Member since Oct 2020
10523 posts
Posted on 8/18/26 at 1:51 pm to
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So you're advocating for not doing things because they are difficult?


Um no

Not what I said, just the opposite

Just frustrated hearing certain groups whine about various issues, but if you told them what would need to occur to actually implement said policies, they would run away and call you an authoritarian!
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 8/18/26 at 1:52 pm to
Why is force needed?
Posted by NytroBud
LaFayette
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 8/18/26 at 1:55 pm to
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Guess my kids or grandkids will be the ones shooting themselves outa this shite yall voted for.



frick that, lets get it on now while I'm still able to get outta bed in the morning
Posted by thermal9221
Youngsville
Member since Feb 2005
15372 posts
Posted on 8/18/26 at 1:59 pm to
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often. But then he’ll have moments where he just has no clue how things work.


To be honest I think most people don’t know.
I’ve done a deep dive into the far left (anarcho commie left) and still don’t know why some things are the way they are.

Most people have lives, until those things affect normal day people it’ll probably stay that way.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
71175 posts
Posted on 8/18/26 at 2:04 pm to
My feelings aren’t that we should be anarcho-capitalists or anything silly like that. I just see government causing so many problems by going beyond the power granted under Article 1, Section 8. I am not the small l libertarian I used to be, but I still see many areas where moving towards libertarianism would be drastically beneficial vs the status quo. On the flip side, I see the necessity of many things in government that I did not understand in my twenties.
Posted by Boom33
Member since Jul 2026
453 posts
Posted on 8/18/26 at 2:27 pm to
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I hope this is sarcasm, but I think it is not.


Let's here it then.

Posted by burger bearcat
Member since Oct 2020
10523 posts
Posted on 8/18/26 at 2:57 pm to
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Why is force needed?


Are you under the impression we can democratically vote our way out of the debt bubble?

Or to end the Fed?

Or to stop printing money?

Explain?
Will women and immigrants vote for politicians willing to do this?

Will the judiciary allow these measure to take place?
Posted by burger bearcat
Member since Oct 2020
10523 posts
Posted on 8/18/26 at 2:59 pm to
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but I still see many areas where moving towards libertarianism would be drastically beneficial vs the status quo.


How do we collectively move towards “libertarianism” with the makeup and demographics of the current electorate?

Will the newly imported immigrants, anchor babies, and fresh out of college single women be voting for these “libertarian” ideas?

Thats great you think these theories would be good and work. But explain how to get the theories in motion?
Posted by burger bearcat
Member since Oct 2020
10523 posts
Posted on 8/18/26 at 3:05 pm to
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Virtually all of the Founding Fathers would be considered Libertarians.


Not really, or at least not in our modern sense

Capital Punishment was widely popular for crimes like Robbery, adultery, sodomy/homosexuality, etc

The founding fathers understanding of the word liberty was different than the modern understanding

The classical understanding of liberty is freedom to do “what you aught to do”. Not necessarily freedom to do whatever you want to do
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
71175 posts
Posted on 8/18/26 at 3:20 pm to
Of course not, and they’re not going to vote for conservatives regardless. Trying to bend over backwards for the approval of people who would as soon set you on fire is how the gop got itself in this mess to begin with.

Immigration enforcement and naturalization is a power of
Congress under Article 1, Section 8. The federal government should be mass deporting people, and getting warrants to do so. The feds have the power to make a reasonable process.

It is the federal government that made the byzantine employment laws that created corporate hr culture and DEI. It is the federal government which must abolish those regulations.

It is the federal government’s funding that created and sustains most of the woke college crap that turns our young ladies into radical psycho communists. Congress can eliminate these programs and defund them. They are astroturf and will die quickly and loudly without government subsidies and federally backed student loans.

It is the federal NEPA that has stopped infrastructure development in this country, and the federal government can eliminate or massively streamline NEPA so things can actually get built here again.

It is the federal government that is subsidizing rent for illegal immigrants. It is the federal government disincentivizing local schools from disciplining disruptive children, it is the federal government directing banks and corporations to de platform problematic individuals, it is the federal government funding corposlop media while protecting it from competition, it is the federal government neglecting its anti-trust laws and allowing for monopolies to crush supply food supply chains, it is the federal government arbitrarily stopping expansion of electrical grids, it is the federal government stopping locals from building proper flood control systems, it is the federal government funding NGO’s that elect hug-a-thug DA’s and judges, it is the federal government who took away your light bulbs and appliances that actually worked, it is the federal government who won’t let automakers sell you a small pickup truck, it is the federal government that sets price floors in the rental markets with Section 8, it is the federal government causing the problems and then gaslighting anyone who tries to stop them.

If you want to start small, start with NEPA, the Jones Act, higher education funding, appliances regs, employment law, fuel economy regulations, section 8, etc.

I haven’t even started on the only parts of the federal budget that actually matter financially either: social security, Medicare, medicaid, defense, and service on debt.
This post was edited on 8/18/26 at 3:25 pm
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
16250 posts
Posted on 8/18/26 at 3:57 pm to
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quote:
Libertarians are fricking retards.


Some are. What’s a word to describe a lifelong GOP voter like you that’s conceded media, academia, Hollywood, corporate America, sports, religion, and on and on to the left?

Pussy?



And what the frick have you done, tough guy? Not a damn thing. Just like your heros Massie and Rand Paul. Bitch.

Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
16250 posts
Posted on 8/18/26 at 3:58 pm to
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Virtually all of the Founding Fathers would be considered Libertarians.


Sure, pal. Sure.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
71175 posts
Posted on 8/18/26 at 4:12 pm to
Did Rand not pull Fauci in front of Congress and create grounds to charge him with contempt?

A single senator or congressman only has so much authority.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
36529 posts
Posted on 8/18/26 at 6:42 pm to
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Let's here it then.


Let’s here what?
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
7217 posts
Posted on 8/18/26 at 6:45 pm to
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The angry seals gonna attack you for this thread though.

Well, the irony of you posting this should embarass you greatly
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
159327 posts
Posted on 8/18/26 at 6:50 pm to
Like a leftist, that one is unable of feeling shame.

Exhibit A:

LINK
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
6382 posts
Posted on 8/18/26 at 7:26 pm to
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Some are. What’s a word to describe a lifelong GOP voter like you that’s conceded media, academia, Hollywood, corporate America, sports, religion, and on and on to the left?


You think libertarians are going to fight the left in those areas? Do you know what libertarians believe?
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
6382 posts
Posted on 8/18/26 at 7:34 pm to
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Virtually all of the Founding Fathers would be considered Libertarians.


I love when people try to sound smart but just make fools of themselves like you did here

Federalist like Hamilton and Adams, etc were not in any way libertarian
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
44819 posts
Posted on 8/18/26 at 9:12 pm to
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Federalist like Hamilton and Adams, etc were not in any way libertarian



I can assure you that if either man were alive today, they’d be considered a Libertarian. We are so far removed from their idea of what gov’t should be…
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