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re: Do people still believe that WTC 7 was NOT a planned demolition?

Posted on 9/11/24 at 1:41 pm to
Posted by SaturatedPhat
Member since Jul 2024
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Posted on 9/11/24 at 1:41 pm to
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Here’s my question: why did they blow it up? The motive I don’t understand.


Coincidentally, the owner just renewed a huge terrorism insurance policy. Totally crazy...I know!
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22724 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 1:42 pm to
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With that said, the evidence overwhelmingly points to a conspiracy that we may never know the full nature of.

For one of the more sober posters on the fakery of climate change, you're on the opposite side on this. Kind of surprising -

Do you believe in a day/age when a president can't get a friendly blowjob without it becoming an international headline, that a conspiracy as deep/wide as would be necessary to fly f'n commercial aircraft into the WTC towers to mask the engineered demolition of two of the largest buildings on earth and a few adjacent ones - that can all be pulled off and none of the conspirators have been found out or even more impossible - not come forward?
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 1:43 pm to
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Who pre-cut the beams on a diagonal?


I have no idea.

That was not the purpose of showing that picture. The purpose was to show the center column beam that the terrorists were after in 1993 but failed.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 1:49 pm to
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For one of the more sober posters on the fakery of climate change, you're on the opposite side on this. Kind of surprising -


I am however consistent on the physical science on both subjects.

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Do you believe in a day/age when a president can't get a friendly blowjob without it becoming an international headline, that a conspiracy as deep/wide as would be necessary to fly f'n commercial aircraft into the WTC towers to mask the engineered demolition of two of the largest buildings on earth and a few adjacent ones - that can all be pulled off and none of the conspirators have been found out or even more impossible - not come forward?


I don't have all the answers. But my eyes and ears tell me a different story than the official story.

Building 7 was not brought down via free fall collapse by falling debris from WTC 1 & 2 and office fires.

If you knew nothing of 911 and I showed you a video of Building 7 collapsing, 1000 out of 1000 times you would says that is a planned demolition.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 9/11/24 at 1:55 pm to
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Building 7 was not brought down via free fall collapse by falling debris from WTC 1 & 2 and office fires.

It was brought down exactly as shown in the 3rd post of this thread. How long, exactly, is your list of things like this?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138898 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 1:55 pm to
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We know exactly why this collapsed.
We know exactly why each one of them collapsed. None were demolition. That's the point.
This post was edited on 9/11/24 at 1:56 pm
Posted by saintsfan1977
Arkansas, from Cajun country
Member since Jun 2010
10346 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 1:56 pm to
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Now, the real truth of the matter is - How did these men get into our country, fly our planes , get into flying classes in our own country - without anyone raising a red flag.......


Answer is "these men" didn't. The biggest lie was guys taking over a plane with box cutters. I'd believe the planes were flown remotely before I believe the lies we were told. I don't believe a single thing the govt has said about that day.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22724 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 1:57 pm to
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I am however consistent on the physical science on both subjects.

No, you're not. You're like a climate change believer flailing about with technical supposition and about 15% of the scientific background you'd need to make a logical argument.

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I don't have all the answers. But my eyes and ears tell me

Yep. And 188 people have died in Phoenix this summer from climate change. It's science, bro.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28133 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 1:58 pm to
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I have no idea.


But the twitter expert says that's the only way buildings can collapse in on themselves. That condo in Miami must have had some sabotage to collapse like that.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 2:11 pm to
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We know exactly why each one of them collapsed. None were demolition. That's the point.


Two of those gifs were of the same Miami condo building collapse.

The other looked like a building in Gaza being hit with a missile from the IDF?
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 2:17 pm to
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That condo in Miami must have had some sabotage to collapse like that.


The entire Miami condo building did not free fall collapse. Half of it was left standing. The entire Building 7 collapsed at one time.

Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 2:20 pm to
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No, you're not. You're like a climate change believer flailing about with technical supposition and about 15% of the scientific background you'd need to make a logical argument.



Let's start with answering the question why thermotic material was found by USGS all over the WTC site the following days after the buildings collapsed. Why? Why was that there?
This post was edited on 9/11/24 at 2:21 pm
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22724 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 2:24 pm to
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Let's start with answering the question why thermotic material was found by USGS all over the WTC site the following days after the buildings collapsed. Why? Why is was that there?

I don't know and neither do you, clearly. But because you can't explain something doesn't make it nefarious. It just makes you (and me) unaware of why thermotic material was found on the WTC site.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 2:29 pm to
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But because you can't explain something doesn't make it nefarious.


You are right, maybe Norfolk Southern Railway had a storage facility at one of the WTC buildings (railroad company operators and contractors use thermite to weld rails).
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 2:34 pm to
The is was probably the Norfolk Southern Railway warehouse that caught fire:

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Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22724 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 2:34 pm to
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You are right, maybe Norfolk Southern Railway had a storage facility at one of the WTC buildings (railroad company operators and contractors use thermite to weld rails).

I appreciate the humor but what I posted is 100% accurate.

You're focused on internet science that in reality ain't very scientific. I can better explain how heat expanded steel and weakened building superstructure to the point the building collapsed on itself than you can explain how a conspiracy as massive as what would be required to pull this off could possibly be done in this day/age.

Start with numbers. How many people do you think would have to be involved in a conspiracy to design the demolition, set up the demolition, do whatever it took to get hijackers on planes and flying into the buildings, etc., etc. How many do you think would have to touch all that?
Posted by Coppertop
Member since Feb 2021
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Posted on 9/11/24 at 2:34 pm to
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
24917 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 2:36 pm to
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Do people still believe that WTC 7 was NOT a planned demolition?


well this is dumb.
Posted by VOR
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2009
68823 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 2:37 pm to
95% of rational Americans don’t buy into that inane conspiracy shite. The planes created explosions and fire that was enough to weaken and collapse the towers.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 9/11/24 at 2:40 pm to
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Start with numbers. How many people do you think would have to be involved in a conspiracy to design the demolition, set up the demolition, do whatever it took to get hijackers on planes and flying into the buildings, etc., etc. How many do you think would have to touch all that?


I'd rather stick with the science but if you are going to force me to speculate I would say a few dozen would be in the know. You have to remember these intelligence agencies are highly siloed. One silo has no idea what the other is doing and the threat of treason charges would be laid if one silo talked to the other about their operations. I'm not talking about U.S. intelligence, but foreign intelligence. U.S. intelligence was likely not in the know and if some U.S. intelligence were in the know it was very few.
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