re: Do people still believe that WTC 7 was NOT a planned demolition?

It's a good thing Robert Mueller was sworn in as FBI Director on Sept. 4, 2001 just in time to oversee their thorough, 3-week long investigation.
Of course, they already knew who was responsible once that magical passport was found just blocks from Ground Zero.

I used to love that gif. I forgot about that one.

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Is there a relevant reason you keep bringing up metallurgy?

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I'm bringing up metallurgy, structural engineering, the science of combustion, impact and all sorts of things that come into play that you're a neophyte on.

I have an engineering background, too (BS & MS degrees in metallurgical engineering) and one thing you learn with a little experience is how much you don't know outside of the narrow areas you spend the time to become an expert in.

One of my alma maters is Purdue. It's been a while, but I've read and watched presentations of papers by Purdue professors that explained that what happened on 9/11 is absolutely plausible given the dynamics of the the impact of planes, resultant fire/heat, load bearing, and some assertions about poor (by 2001 standards) design of the buildings themselves. There are many similar presentations out there done by credible engineers in relevant fields.

I'm one of the biggest skeptics/critics of all things government around here. I would have zero problem believing some whackjob group in the CIA would come up with this idea. I do have some difficulty believing they'd be able to pull it off in a way that wasn't comically obvious. Point being, I am more than willing to jump on the first bit of credible evidence that 9/11 was an inside job because that would fit my outlook on fedgov - but we haven't seen the first bit of credible evidence.

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Anybody seeing a 757 here?

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I know it was nearly a quarter century ago, but I’ve seen video with better resolution at the neighborhood stop-n-rob. Even still, watch it at a very reduced playback speed — there seems to a series of frames missing.

And possibly the most secure military facility in the world and all we have is one parking lot camera? B.S.

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Then of course the internet sleuths were called loons for worrying about it...

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For decades. anyone who dared question the conclusions of the Warren Commission Report was deemed a crazed conspiracy loon who likewise believed the moon landing was faked.

Yet in the past decade alone, declassified files have revealed that the Warren Commission Report itself was — at the very minimum— a massive conspiracy to coverup the fact that the CIA was tracking Oswald in the weeks, months and indeed years before that fateful day in Dallas.

So if any drone ever cites the Warren Commission as the final arbiter of what actually happened in Dallas on that fateful November day in Dallas, realize that they have no credibility whatsoever and are victims of a massive Deep State propaganda campaign.

What else was a lie and what remains in the unclassified CIA files about Kennedy’s assassination that have yet to be to be released?

With this in mind, discussing the true motives and actors that plotted the worst terror attack in American history — which has ushered in an era of permanent warfare and the erection of a massive and unConstitutional surveillance apparatus — is a legitimate line of inquiry for any sentient being who correctly realizes that our nation’s national security apparatus is wholly corrupted and compromised.

We should never forget that Osama Bin Laden and the Afghan Mujahideen — via funding through Pakistan’s national security apparatus — were once CIA assets.

At the very least, the alphabet intelligence agencies are collectively complicit in the 9/11 attack because of their deliberate sins of omission.

FBI and CIA fight it out over who was to blame for September 11 blunders….

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I'm bringing up metallurgy, structural engineering, the science of combustion, impact and all sorts of things that come into play that you're a neophyte on.

I have an engineering background, too (BS & MS degrees in metallurgical engineering) and one thing you learn with a little experience is how much you don't know outside of the narrow areas you spend the time to become an expert in.

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I completely understand.

But one thing that bothers me is that fact that NIST will not release their FEA model to the public for peer review. I know there are a lot of missing elements missing in that model. I do have FEA experience.

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It's been a while, but I've read and watched presentations of papers by Purdue professors that explained that what happened on 9/11 is absolutely plausible given the dynamics of the the impact of planes, resultant fire/heat, load bearing, and some assertions about poor (by 2001 standards) design of the buildings themselves. There are many similar presentations out there done by credible engineers in relevant fields.

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Well, I'll have to look them up. On the contrary I've seen a couple of engineering seminars by structural engineers that specialize in high rises with a lot of unanswered questions who are very skeptical of the NIST narrative.

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I'm one of the biggest skeptics/critics of all things government around here. I would have zero problem believing some whackjob group in the CIA would come up with this idea. I do have some difficulty believing they'd be able to pull it off in a way that wasn't comically obvious. Point being, I am more than willing to jump on the first bit of credible evidence that 9/11 was an inside job because that would fit my outlook on fedgov - but we haven't seen the first bit of credible evidence.

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Just my opinion and I've already said it in this thread if it was an inside job which I think is more probable than not, was not pulled off by U.S. intelligence. More than likely foreign intelligence with maybe a couple of U.S. intelligence persons with knowledge. And how do you keep this quiet? Silos. One intelligence silo as no idea what the other is up to and the people within each silo keep quiet like their lives depend on it, literally.

Now with that said there is the theory about the Israeli art students in the towers prior to 911:

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Each of those interior columns had to be cut at an angle for the core to go straight down in freefall. Like this one from 911

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Anyone that thinks builds collapse like a tree falling over is immediately dismissable as an idiot. Although they could just be straight up be lying to you. You can choose.