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re: DJT - We run out of reserves at about 4 weeks...you wanna see bedlam?

Posted on 6/19/26 at 9:07 am to
Posted by Decatur
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Posted on 6/19/26 at 9:07 am to
## 6. Tertiary effects

- **Macro / inflation / Fed.** A sustained $150+ oil is a classic stagflationary supply shock. The Fed faces the worst dilemma — tightening deepens the recession, easing lets a second inflation wave run. Headline CPI re-accelerates; the diesel channel makes it broad, not just energy. USD likely catches a safe-haven bid, stressing EM importers further.
- **Asia is the epicenter.** China, India, Japan, and South Korea take the bulk of Hormuz crude. They bid aggressively for **every** non-Hormuz barrel, **pulling Atlantic-Basin, West African, Latin American, and US crude eastward** — which *worsens* US and European availability and turns a regional closure into a global bidding war. China's strategic reserve becomes a geopolitical variable (release vs. hoard).
- **Global recession ? demand-destruction price collapse.** Every major oil-price spike in modern history preceded a recession; the self-correcting mechanism is brutal — demand breaks, then price collapses (the 2008 path). The "high price" and "recession" outcomes are not alternatives; the first **causes** the second with a lag.
- **Structural / long-run.** Accelerated investment in **Gulf-bypass infrastructure** (Saudi East–West expansion, UAE Fujairah — though Red Sea / Bab-el-Mandeb exposure caps the bypass, the GOGET unmodeled risk), a US shale capex surge (6–12 mo lag), renewed strategic-stockpile competition, and a sharpened energy-security-vs-transition debate.
- **Freight / insurance.** War-risk premiums (Lloyd's) make even *permitted* transits uneconomic; VLCC rates spike — the effective closure is broader than the literal blockade.
- **Military escalation feedback.** Pressure for US/coalition naval action to force the strait open ? escalation spiral ? the scenario feeds *back* into the wider-war premise the whole GOGET framework was built on. This is the tail where the spoke rejoins Path C at its most violent.

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## 7. Two-sided resolution & link back to GOGET

The scenario does **not** resolve to a single price — it resolves to one of two regimes, and the variable that decides is **how fast demand breaks relative to how fast buffers empty:**

- **Supply-constrained (buffers empty first):** $160–200+, rationing, export controls, the SPR spent — a months-long siege economy until the strait reopens.
- **Demand-destruction (demand breaks first):** a violent spike ($160–180) that recession then craters — high-then-low, the 2008 shape.

**For the live framework:** this spoke implies the **Path-C midpoint ($130) is conservative for a re-closure *from today's depleted base*.** The first closure had ~415 SPR / ~29 Cushing / fuller commercial to absorb it; a second has Cushing at tank bottoms, SPR -18%, and commercial near strain. The same physical event would therefore reprice **faster and higher** than February did. If a Lebanon-driven collapse (the live C trigger in Rev 8) actually re-closed the strait, the framework's C distribution should arguably be **right-shifted and fatter-tailed** than the current $130 point — something to fold into the next reweight *if* C re-rates.

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## 8. Key assumptions & uncertainties

| # | Assumption / unknown | Sensitivity |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | Commercial draw ~2.0 mb/d base (vs 1.2 observed) | Drives all timelines; ±50% shifts op-min by weeks |
| 2 | SPR emergency release ~2.0 mb/d sustainable | If only ~1.3 achievable, commercial drains faster |
| 3 | Export-control timing | Earlier curbs slow the draw but worsen the global shortage |
| 4 | Persian Gulf bypass (~3–4 mb/d effective) | Bab-el-Mandeb exposure could cut it toward zero (worse) |
| 5 | Demand-destruction elasticity / lag | Determines which §7 regime wins, and when |
| 6 | Cushing absolute floor (18 vs lower) | Sets the WTI-squeeze severity |
| 7 | Commercial operational minimum (350 band) | Modern system has never tested it — genuine uncertainty |
| 8 | Iranian production already destroyed (~2.85 vs 3.95 baseline) | A re-closure strands the *other* ~13–16 mb/d of Gulf transit on top |

**This is a hypothetical projection, not investment advice.**

**Data sources:** EIA WPSR DOE/EIA-0208(2026-025), week ending Jun 12, 2026 — PADD crude stocks (PADD 1 7.9 / PADD 2 97.8 / Cushing 20.0 / PADD 3 243.8 / PADD 4 23.5 / PADD 5 45.2), commercial 418.2, SPR 340.3, total crude 758.5; flows: production 13.8, crude imports 5.7, crude exports 4.9, net crude imports 0.8, refinery inputs 17.0 @ 96.7%, operable capacity 18.0, net product exports 6.1 (gross 7.8). Pre-closure curve: Brent $79.55 / WTI ~$76 (Jun 17 settle). Operational-minimum bands, draw rates, and all price milestones are stated scenario assumptions.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
479549 posts
Posted on 6/19/26 at 9:07 am to
quote:

Yes but we had to eliminate the British Empire. It just had to be done.

I hope this is a troll mocking the Promethean Update retards, who have embarrassed themselves during this war
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
479549 posts
Posted on 6/19/26 at 9:08 am to
quote:

Rest of world not so much but they wouldn’t help us with Iran or opening the strait so frick em


The economy is global, like oil prices.

Asia and the EU having their economies crash would cause our economy to crash.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
69306 posts
Posted on 6/19/26 at 9:11 am to
This is a tankie crew you would normally laugh at and Pepe may full of it, but he says Trump got some type of 60 day risk assessment that drove him to the MOU.
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
32843 posts
Posted on 6/19/26 at 9:36 am to
quote:

he says Trump got some type of 60 day risk assessment that drove him to the MOU.


I have Claude and could tell you that we have been on a clock. Trump has the US intelligence community so he should know better than anyone.
Posted by Hobie101
Member since May 2012
1178 posts
Posted on 6/19/26 at 9:52 am to
quote:

It's a hallmark of Trump. He's says something that's imprecise/sloppy/rambling, then everyone interprets what they want from it.


And this is what we want from the leader of the free world?
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
24046 posts
Posted on 6/19/26 at 10:04 am to
BS. They be trying to account for their high prices. 6 decades ago the world was running out of oil!!
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
32843 posts
Posted on 6/19/26 at 10:07 am to
The binding variable according to Claude

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Posted by TigerAxeOK
In the woods and by the waters.
Member since Dec 2016
38581 posts
Posted on 6/19/26 at 10:11 am to
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My local Buc-ee’s today.

You're either incredibly lucky or a time traveler.

I'm paying a dollar more in oil-rich Oklahoma.
Posted by PJinAtl
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2007
14598 posts
Posted on 6/19/26 at 10:18 am to
quote:

Is he right?

If he is, why announce it to the world? Maybe everyone in the oil producing world knew it, but if not you just handed Iran key information. If they shut the SoH down again for a couple of weeks they can demand different terms for reopening. Or they can close it and cause a global economic crisis.
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
23165 posts
Posted on 6/19/26 at 10:21 am to
Didn’t Biden Admin refuse to fill strategic oil reserve when oil prices went negative during Covid? Seem like that would’ve been the ideal time to essentially fill it for next to nothing.
Posted by tigervet4
Member since Sep 2006
2416 posts
Posted on 6/19/26 at 10:22 am to
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If he is, why announce it to the world? Maybe everyone in the oil producing world knew it, but if not you just handed Iran key information.

Everyone paying attention to this conflict knew it, if you didn't you should reconsider how you get your news.
Posted by DUKE87
Covington, LA
Member since May 2021
1763 posts
Posted on 6/19/26 at 12:13 pm to
I fully agree what you said here. It’s important to have allies. Lately we have been salty to some of these allies. Poor foreign policy in my opinion.

No country can fully rely on itself. Anyone that says different needs to do some research.

Posted by UptownJoeBrown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2024
10700 posts
Posted on 6/19/26 at 2:05 pm to
quote:

If he is, why announce it to the world?


The CEOs of Exxon and Chevron made statements about the situation. Trump didn’t say anything that was a secret.
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
48025 posts
Posted on 6/19/26 at 2:18 pm to
quote:

SFP says this means Trump believes Iran is capable of bringing the global economy to its knees


they definitely can if nobody is capable of stopping their drones and missiles reliably. if we dont have the weapons to stop them in that regard then our answer would have to be bombing of cities or nukes, but because of the structure that irans leadership is designed as, that may not even work either.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59939 posts
Posted on 6/19/26 at 2:21 pm to
That’s what you’re hoping for. You and the Mullahs.
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
22911 posts
Posted on 6/19/26 at 2:24 pm to
The market will adjust to the soh closing it just would take longer than we want before midterms
Posted by jammajin
Member since Jul 2024
2328 posts
Posted on 6/19/26 at 3:12 pm to
quote:

And this is what we want from the leader of the free world?


The last leader of the free world was an auto pen who got 80 M votes.

We’re OK thanks.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
56496 posts
Posted on 6/19/26 at 3:31 pm to
quote:

Didn’t Biden Admin refuse to fill strategic oil reserve when oil prices went negative during Covid? Seem like that would’ve been the ideal time to essentially fill it for next to nothing.

Worse than that. It was during the Trump administration. He intelligently jumped on it, but the democrats would not let him fill it for almost free.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
76730 posts
Posted on 6/19/26 at 3:34 pm to
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