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re: Did you attend Church today?
Posted on 6/1/26 at 6:12 am to lurking
Posted on 6/1/26 at 6:12 am to lurking
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Martin Luther continues to be a scourge on humanity.
The US shouldn’t have fought the Nazis because there are stupid evil Americans today.
Eta: true Presbyterians make a great effort to be true to scripture, letting scripture interpret scripture, and consulting the rich tradition of the church, like Clement of Rome, Ignatius, Polycarp, Papias, Justin, Irenaeus, Clement of Alexandria, Tertullian, Origen*, Cyprian, Anthony, Athanasius, Ephrem, Hilary, Cyril of Jerusalem, Basil, Gregory Nazianzen, Gregory of Nyssa, Ambrose, Macarius, Evagrius, Jerome, Chrysostom, Augustine, Cassian, Cyril of Alexandria, Leo, Benedict, Gregory the Great, John of Damascus.
Scripture and tradition. Not the whims of Rome.
We consider this woman a complete heretic and not a member of the one true catholic church founded as accounted by Luke in Acts (and obviously Christ before that).
This post was edited on 6/1/26 at 7:18 am
Posted on 6/1/26 at 6:12 am to lurking
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Martin Luther continues to be a scourge on humanity.
Hard core catholic, user name lurker.
Name checks out, pedo.
Posted on 6/1/26 at 6:14 am to Kafka
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the one area where catholics >>> protestants
So pedos are better than abortionists? That’s rich.
Posted on 6/1/26 at 6:22 am to Jimbeaux
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Father Greg gave a wonderful homily!
Matthew 23:9 "And call no man your father on earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven."
Posted on 6/1/26 at 6:35 am to March1st
this was always the logical conclusion of the protestant reformation. the fundamental reason for the protestant reformation was a protest against the hierarchy of the church. now we have a protestant faith without a hierarchy and doctrine is fluid. the great thing about being catholic is that popes come and go, but the sacraments are eternal. the mass has ended go in peace!
at the end of the day the protestant reformation was an historical blip.
at the end of the day the protestant reformation was an historical blip.
Posted on 6/1/26 at 8:06 am to March1st
Heretic…so many reasons why women are not qualified to be pastors.
Posted on 6/1/26 at 8:11 am to dickkellog
quote:I’m not sure what you mean by “logical conclusion”. The Reformation was a return to biblical Christianity over and against non-biblical abuses. The woman in the OP is not representing biblical Christianity any more than Mormonism does, and what she is doing and saying is being rejected by Protestants like myself, who continue the tradition of the Reformation by comparing her teaching to Scripture and finding it lacking in truth.
this was always the logical conclusion of the protestant reformation.
quote:Not exactly. The initial impetus that drove Martin Luther to speak up was actually an abuse of indulgences. Luther thought he was doing the Church a favor by calling it out and seeking debate on the topic. He genuinely wanted to reform the Church, not destroy it.
the fundamental reason for the protestant reformation was a protest against the hierarchy of the church.
Even after the Reformation took off, it wasn’t the hierarchy, itself, that was at issue, but the teaching of implicit faith and submission to that hierarchy even against the Bible. The Reformers taught that church government was good and that Christians should submit to such authorities, but the caveat was that submission was based on God’s Word in the Bible as the final authority, not based on the authority of the hierarchy.
quote:I’ve noticed that Catholics often speak of Protestantism as a monolithic thing, as if there is a Protestant church and a Catholic church, and the Protestant church is a disunified mess while the Roman church is unified. You would be better to compare one denomination within Protestantism to Catholicism, because we don’t believe in one “Protestant” church as the true church like Rome (and the Orthodox Church) does.
now we have a protestant faith without a hierarchy and doctrine is fluid.
If you take the Orthodox Presbyterian Church as an example, it has a government structure that does not change and the members submit to, and its doctrine isn’t “fluid”, as it subscribes to the Westminster Confession of Faith as a faithful summary of biblical doctrine. The doctrine is considered reformable but not “fluid”, as there isn't an understanding that anything can pop up out of the blue, but that the doctrine, itself, is more or less settled.
quote:This statement downplays the RCC’s own teachings on the Pope, especially during the Medieval ages and the first Vatican Council, which dogmatized papal infallibility. I know it has become vogue for Catholics to trash the Pope, but that hasn’t been accepted throughout at least the last 1,000 years of history.
the great thing about being catholic is that popes come and go, but the sacraments are eternal. the mass has ended go in peace!
Another point of departure from Rome with Protestants generally is the emphasis of the sacraments. We believe the sacraments are important, but we believe they are important because they point to Jesus Christ, not because of sacramentalism, itself. You speak of the mass as an end to itself, while we see the Eucharist as pointing to what Christ has done for sinners, and therefore it is Jesus who is eternal, not the re-presentations of His death.
quote:The return to biblical Christianity that was started by the Reformation is still going strong in many Protestant denominations. 500 years is hardly a blip at this point, but even if most Protestants abandoned biblical Christianity, it wouldn’t change anything about the truth as reclaimed by the Reformers, since God has always preserved a remnant of His people, even when most of Israel went after idols and were taken away into captivity as punishment.
at the end of the day the protestant reformation was an historical blip.
This post was edited on 6/1/26 at 9:04 am
Posted on 6/1/26 at 8:28 am to March1st
I did attend Church yesterday and heard a great message on John 15
“I am the true grapevine, and my Father is the gardener. 2 He cuts off every branch of mine that doesn’t produce fruit, and he prunes the branches that do bear fruit so they will produce even more. 3 You have already been pruned and purified by the message I have given you. 4 Remain in me, and I will remain in you. For a branch cannot produce fruit if it is severed from the vine, and you cannot be fruitful unless you remain in me.
5 “Yes, I am the vine; you are the branches. Those who remain in me, and I in them, will produce much fruit. For apart from me you can do nothing. 6 Anyone who does not remain in me is thrown away like a useless branch and withers. Such branches are gathered into a pile to be burned. 7 But if you remain in me and my words remain in you, you may ask for anything you want, and it will be granted! 8 When you produce much fruit, you are my true disciples. This brings great glory to my Father.
“I am the true grapevine, and my Father is the gardener. 2 He cuts off every branch of mine that doesn’t produce fruit, and he prunes the branches that do bear fruit so they will produce even more. 3 You have already been pruned and purified by the message I have given you. 4 Remain in me, and I will remain in you. For a branch cannot produce fruit if it is severed from the vine, and you cannot be fruitful unless you remain in me.
5 “Yes, I am the vine; you are the branches. Those who remain in me, and I in them, will produce much fruit. For apart from me you can do nothing. 6 Anyone who does not remain in me is thrown away like a useless branch and withers. Such branches are gathered into a pile to be burned. 7 But if you remain in me and my words remain in you, you may ask for anything you want, and it will be granted! 8 When you produce much fruit, you are my true disciples. This brings great glory to my Father.
This post was edited on 6/1/26 at 8:29 am
Posted on 6/1/26 at 8:38 am to Neutral Underground
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They belong in the same category as The Westboro Baptist Church. All extremist sects.
Jesus mentioned these types in John 8:44
You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
Posted on 6/1/26 at 9:13 am to Drizzt
Dr Rev Rebecca Todd Peters. I wonder how many are in her congregation.
Posted on 6/1/26 at 9:23 am to lurking
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Martin Luther continues to be a scourge on humanity.
Because all Protestants and Protestant churches/denominations are the same.
Posted on 6/1/26 at 10:55 am to lurking
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Martin Luther continues to be a scourge on humanity.
The thing is that us Protestants always call out the heretics on our side, whether it be lgbtq and abortion supporters or prosperity gospel charlatans. Your attempts to tie this to Protestantism is rather dumb considering the number of denominations that reject this blasphemy.
You Catholics, on the other hand, still regularly defend your one church that protected pedophiles for decades, supports illegal immigration and the climate change hoax, and has a long history of corruption, abuse, and even mafia ties.
When Protestants disagree with what their church is doing, we find a new one. Catholics still attend the same churches and continue sending money to the heretics in the Vatican regardless of what they do.
My church also isn't hoarding immense wealth while telling others they need to give their money to the poor. You should remove the plank in your own eye before you call out the speck in another's.
Posted on 6/1/26 at 11:00 am to First Sergeant1
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Heretic…so many reasons why women are not qualified to be pastors.
Yes. It's why the early church worked to root them out. And then Martin Luther came along. And now there are 40,000 protestant sects. Some old main line protestant denominations and their new fangled heretical offshoots.
Posted on 6/1/26 at 11:17 am to Bayoubred
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Matthew 23:9 "And call no man your father on earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven."
Jesus was referring to the Pharisees and their sinful ways in this passage.
There are many references in the New and Old Testaments that contradict what you are trying to say.
“Men, brethren, and fathers, hearken…” (Acts 7:2)
“Abraham, who is the father of us all.” (Romans 4:16)
“For though ye have ten thousand instructors in Christ, yet have ye not many fathers: for in Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the gospel.” (1 Corinthians 4:15)
“So it was not you who sent me here, but God; and he has made me a father to Pharaoh, and lord of all his house and ruler over all the land of Egypt” (Gen. 45:8).
“I was a father to the poor, and I searched out the cause of him whom I did not know” (Job 29:16)
“In that day I will call my servant Eliakim, the son of Hilkiah . . . and I will clothe him with [a] robe, and will bind [a] girdle on him, and will commit . . . authority to his hand; and he shall be a father to the inhabitants of Jerusalem and to the house of Judah” (Isa. 22:20–21)
Elisha cries, “My father, my father!” to Elijah as the latter is carried up to heaven in a whirlwind (2 Kgs. 2:12). Later, Elisha himself is called a father by the king of Israel (2 Kgs. 6:21)
Posted on 6/1/26 at 11:19 am to BhamTigah
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Because all Protestants and Protestant churches/denominations are the same.
Quite the opposite I believe. It is because there are so many and all interpret the gospel in their own way.
Posted on 6/1/26 at 11:19 am to March1st
Cult of Death, not a church.
Posted on 6/1/26 at 11:26 am to March1st
I attended worship service yesterday. The church is the body of believers.
Posted on 6/1/26 at 11:27 am to March1st
Just to be clear this is not all Presbyterian Churches. The PCUSA is a very lost a liberal split in the church.
The PCA is extremely conservative and sticks to scripture. Just making sure a distinction is made between the churches.
The PCA is extremely conservative and sticks to scripture. Just making sure a distinction is made between the churches.
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