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re: Did Obama Unwittingly Kill the Democrat Party?

Posted on 3/12/25 at 10:16 am to
Posted by back9Tiger
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Posted on 3/12/25 at 10:16 am to
He killed the country and set it on the far leftist path and also set a Trump political future in motion. If you're a lefty, blame Obama for Trump.
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
5900 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 10:17 am to
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The higher prices necessary to make lower level domestic manufacturing viable will be taken from spending in more efficient, advanced economic areas. So that spending in the higher-margin, more developed/advanced economy will go towards the lower-level domestic manufacturing sector.



You mean like the Taiwanese pledging to invest over 100 billion in to manufacturing chips here? Trump has been working on that for a while.

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Trade deficits aren't always bad and they don't affect our government spending, which is why our deficits are created.



A combination of less spending and transitioning to a trade surplus or at worst trade net zero is needed. Not just one or the other.

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We cannot grow our economy to deal with the deficit in any significant way, either. The math just isn't there.



Increasing GDP by 4% annually ALONG with major decreases in spending will have to be our goals for many years in order to deal with the deficit. Their is no single silver bullet that will kill that beast. It will take machine gun amounts of silver bullets.
This post was edited on 3/12/25 at 10:19 am
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
110923 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 10:18 am to
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Plus, we now see that Obama nor Biden were ever really running the country. The radicalized DIM machine was


That's all that the Democrat party is now, and the veil seems to have obviously lifted amongst most voters. It can't be unseen and I have a hard time seeing some slickster like Newsom being all it takes to overcome it.
Posted by LSUtoBOOT
Member since Aug 2012
20384 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 10:21 am to
He definitely poked a sleeping bear, and the silent majority has spoken and won’t be silenced for a long time.
Posted by bluestem75
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2007
5111 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 10:21 am to
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SlowFlowPro


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So, by 2024, after the Left was given basically almost 2 full cultural cycles, things had ended up WAY too left.


Have a upvote. I normally disagree with you. Congrats!

You are spot on. The Democrats, bolstered by the Globalist network and a fawning media, kept holding the pendulum from swinging back right which is why it’s swung back so hard. They squashed the TEA Party (with the help of Establishment Republicans) which caused that movement to morph into MAGA.

In typical Democrat style, they overplayed their hand grossly during Trump’s first term and even more so during Biden’s term. The incessant prosecutions of Trump turned a man who is innately unlikeable into a sympathetic figure who was being unjustly picked on. In doing so, they spit in the face of the American people telling them they cannot prefer an outsider candidate. And if they do, the political machine will destroy him.

This backfired immensely because the Establishment forgot about and underestimated the will and desire of the American people to self-govern.

It’s also why Democrats may never win Gen X back and are facing a very real extinction event. I normally don’t say that because parties always bounce back, but this version of the Democrat Party relies on a mainstream media Americans no longer trust and taxpayer funding that’s been laundered by shell organizations which is now being shut off. They’ve threatened the retirements of Gen Xers and made it impossible for Millennials and Zoomers to afford the life they became accustomed to as children.

They undemocratically dumped their Presidential candidate in favor of someone who was unfit, unprepared, and vapid. This was unacceptable to a majority of Americans who showed up in droves to vote for Trump. The only reason the election was within 2 million votes is because California spent a month ballot harvesting to blunt the Congressional majority.

The pendulum swung back hard because the Democrats, with a lot of help, held it back. Doing so has created such a sharp and overwhelming momentum against them that they may not recover. They certainly won’t if they continue to double down on unpopular policies like they are…
This post was edited on 3/12/25 at 10:31 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476619 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 10:23 am to
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You mean like the Taiwanese pledging to invest over 100 billion in to manufacturing chips here?

No. That is specifically not lower level manufacturing, and it's also not domestic manufacturing (as the companies benefiting are in Taiwan)

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A combination of less spending and transitioning to a trade surplus or at worst trade net zero is needed.

Less spending? Yes

Trade surplus? No. That almost always signals we are poor, which would be a bad spot to be in to deal with our deficit.

We just need less spending and to increase our GDP after the economic crash from removing federal spending on that level. We can do this and maintain a trade deficit just fine.

Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
21448 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 10:33 am to
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Which guard rails? How? Like a policy or just esoteric stuff?


Like it or not there are political and ideological guardrails that keep both parties for taking a swan dive off a cliff. Take full fledged amnesty for illegals for example. There is precedent for a president doing this. Dems have been clamoring for it for decades, and yet neither Obama nor Biden did it. Why is that? It’s because granting 30 million illegals amnesty would be nuclear war politically speaking. Universal Govt healthcare is another. They’ve played around the edges with Obamacare and Medicare and Medicaid, but they’ve never made that leap to be being the de facto health insurance provider to every American… on the flip side is gay marriage, which legally speaking is not yet even 20 years old. Once that “guard rail” was removed we very quickly became embroiled in the entire tranny and pronoun nonsense with Dems latching onto it with full fervor. In less than 20 years we’ve gone from granting gays the right to marry to arguing over when is a woman a woman, men dominating women’s sports and freaks proclaiming they have a right to use women’s restrooms and locker rooms
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476619 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 10:37 am to
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on the flip side is gay marriage, which legally speaking is not yet even 20 years old. Once that “guard rail” was removed

What did Obama specifically have to do with a Supreme Court ruling?
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
35320 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 10:53 am to
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Are you really this retarded?


Let me check with Retard Finder. One sec.

Results in.

Yes.
Posted by Tmcgin
BATON ROUGE
Member since Jun 2010
6557 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 10:56 am to
Trump is killing the Republicans but us RINO's we will bail you out
since were hedging our investments against him

How is DJT stock doing the last 24 months ?
Posted by Sasquatch45
Earth
Member since Jul 2021
1899 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 10:56 am to
Obama is a classic clown
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
23906 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 10:56 am to

Dem strategy has always been to turn the heat up slowly, so the frogs won’t jump out of the pot.

Dems turned up the heat too fast in the last 4 years. People felt the impact of crappy leftist policies.

Carter made the same mistake in the late 70s.
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
5900 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 11:04 am to
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Trade surplus? No. That almost always signals we are poor, which would be a bad spot to be in to deal with our deficit.



Trade surplus does not signal we are poor at all. It signals that we have adjusted tariffs to equalize the amount of money flowing in and out of the country. When you hemorrhaging close to 1 trillion dollars annually because of trade deficits you are forced to print money to replace it. Inflation incoming.
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
49893 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 11:05 am to
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Your "Kill" comment is what he was addressing. The DEM party took a big L in November but by no means is it "killed".

Read the words and reply to those words. Don't just create fantasies and strawmen to respond to.



You're haggling over one word? Really? I've also referred to the current state of the Democrat Party as being "on life-support." Do you also have a problem with that terminology? Are you unaware of the negative reactions by many DEMOCRATS over the way elected Democrat officials composed themselves during Trump's speech?

Dude, the very title of this thread was presented in the form of a question. Political parties are not human beings; unlike people, a political party can potentially resurrect itself. But in typical fashion, you chose to obsess over a single word.

Truth is, you played your hand with your very first response by showing that you can't handle any critical evaluation of Obama. But, don't worry. You can always "save face" by telling us how you voted for Kanye in 2020, as if that impresses anybody.
Posted by HagaDaga
Member since Oct 2020
7816 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 11:15 am to
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The reality is that some people were traumatized by the election of a black Democrat.

Those same people projected their every fear onto the administration and anything that Obama did or said, and the false narratives were born.

What a joke of a person you are. Geez.

Yeah the want to "fundamentally transform America" is just a narrative made up by racists afraid of a black man in power.

You people literally live in an alternative Wakanda universe
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47572 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 11:22 am to
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The reality is that some people were traumatized by the election of a black Democrat.


This is garbage. People were RELIEVED that it happened. He was supposed to be the "post-racial" president, and put an end, once and for all, the ideas of "systemic racism".
Instead, he and the party TRIPLED DOWN on identity politics. Today, we have an entire generation of idiots marching in the streets over their insane groomer and xenogender identity politics, race rioters burning cities, and a boat-load of politicians willing to wreck the social fabric of our nation to give them what they want.
This post was edited on 3/12/25 at 11:29 am
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
35320 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 11:22 am to
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Trump is killing the Republicans but us RINO's we will bail you out
since were hedging our investments against him

How is DJT stock doing the last 24 months ?


finding them in spades today. like shooting fish in a barrel.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61365 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 11:23 am to
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If you're a lefty, blame Obama for Trump.


If anyone is to be "blamed" for Trump, it's the DNC.

The DNC refuses to nominate viable candidates. They gave us Hilary in 2016. I actually did vote for Trump in 2016 because I could not stomach the thought of Hilary in the White House. They gave us Biden in 2020 (I voted for the birthday party) and Harris last time (I voted for Cornell West).
Posted by pbro62
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2016
15318 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 11:25 am to
frick off retard
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47572 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 11:28 am to
the flock of retards, lead by their alpha SFP, are donning their Spring plumage... strutting and chirping their songs of stupidity.
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