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re: Did Obama Unwittingly Kill the Democrat Party?
Posted on 3/12/25 at 9:42 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 3/12/25 at 9:42 am to SlowFlowPro
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Did Obama Unwittingly Kill the Democrat Party?
You might hit 300 posts today.
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Posted on 3/12/25 at 9:43 am to SlowFlowPro
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No that's just anti-other team politic virtue signaling.
Right. What coming down the pike will possibly shake them out of that?
I know you think it is muh recession, but are they even equipped to pivot on that issue to something that is clearly more reasonable to normal voters than the current Republican alternative?
Posted on 3/12/25 at 9:44 am to SlowFlowPro
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You have to create major conspiracy theories to interject Obama into the current Dem party, which is baked into my initial comments ITT.
No you don't. He set them on their current path and it is widely understood that he and his people were the real powers behind the scene during the Biden administration.
Your attempt to change the topic is irrelevant to the topic.
Posted on 3/12/25 at 9:45 am to SlowFlowPro
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The Obama obsession many of y'all have is fascinating behavior.
This coming from someone that’s had Trump syndrome for a decade and a half is laughable. Do you democrats EVER think before you speak? It used to be enjoyable to debate back and forth but yall are so dumb and lost as a party it’s not even enjoyable anymore. Like picking on the SLOW bugger eating kid in class PUN INTENDED
Posted on 3/12/25 at 9:46 am to Y.A. Tittle
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What coming down the pike will possibly shake them out of that?
They won't have to with the recession. They can just engage in the same anti-other team politic virtue signaling and blame the policies of the party in power for the recession
You see the corollary on here all the time with "Biden's economy".
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I know you think it is muh recession, but are they even equipped to pivot on that issue to something that is clearly more reasonable to normal voters than the current Republican alternative?
If the recession hurts the general public, it doesn't have to be. It's more about not being the party in power and blaming the party in power.
Again, see, "Biden's economy" meme on here. Trump offered nothing specific to counter it. He gave general platitudes and assured the middle he was not the party in power. It worked. The DEMs can do the same thing.
The middle shifts typically with the economy. Clinton nailed it in 92.
Posted on 3/12/25 at 9:46 am to Nevada_Tiger
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You have to create major conspiracy theories to interject Obama into the current Dem party
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No you don't.
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t is widely understood that he and his people were the real powers behind the scene during the Biden administration.
Posted on 3/12/25 at 9:47 am to FireawayLSU
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This coming from someone that’s had Trump syndrome for a decade a
Incorrect.
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Do you democrats
Posted on 3/12/25 at 9:47 am to SlowFlowPro
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Y'all have legit made this meme real life.
Oh you old, freeze-dried queen.
Posted on 3/12/25 at 9:47 am to SlowFlowPro
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The middle shifts typically with the economy. Clinton nailed it in 92.
I would suggest it is probably folly to think anything close to that sort of paradigm even exists anymore, or is capable of existing again.
We shall see.
Posted on 3/12/25 at 9:48 am to Vacherie Saint
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ignore him. he's just an angry, fat little retard who has literally no friends. He knows that we have two parties, and of the two republicans are clearly the party of smaller government. he knows that THOUSANDS of federal workers are being fired as we speak. he knows agencies like the DOE are being dismantled. he just needs the attention.
Yeah, if DOGE hadn't already drawn blood then Dems wouldn't be raging. Schumer and his comrades have gone berserk over Elon Musk.
Hell, they've even incited their blue-haired crazies to attack Tesla owners and dealerships. The Left have always been a little unhinged, and they were the perfect foil for a conman like Barack Hussein Obama.
Posted on 3/12/25 at 9:49 am to Y.A. Tittle
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I would suggest it is probably folly to think anything close to that sort of paradigm even exists anymore, or is capable of existing again.
It was one of the lead variables 4 months ago
Economy Most Important Issue to 2024 Presidential Vote
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The current 52% of voters rating the economy as an “extremely important” influence on their vote for president is the highest since October 2008 during the Great Recession, when 55% of voters said the same. In polls conducted closest to the election in other presidential election years since 1996, between 38% and 44% of voters rated candidates’ positions on the economy as extremely important to their vote. Half of these readings are from September or October polling; the exceptions are 2000 (August), 2012 (February) and 2016 (May).
This post was edited on 3/12/25 at 9:51 am
Posted on 3/12/25 at 9:50 am to SlowFlowPro
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It was one of the lead variables 4 months ago
Not for the Democrat party.
Posted on 3/12/25 at 9:51 am to Y.A. Tittle
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Not for the Democrat party.
They were the party in power.
For the middle, who blamed the party in power for the economy.
The same will happen to Trump/GOP if the bottom falls out while he's the party in power.
Posted on 3/12/25 at 9:51 am to SlowFlowPro
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His inefficient economic plan to "bring manufacturing home" is the centerpiece of this philosophy. That strategy is straight up big government redistribution.
So "bring manufacturing home" is a inefficient economic plan? How is that plan strait up big gov. redistribution?
In order to increase GDP we need manufacturing to increase. In order to realistically move toward a balanced budget (some how start paying down the debt) we have to address the trade deficits that have been occurring for decades. Manufacturing in our country will help along with getting our trading partners to quit screwing us.
Posted on 3/12/25 at 9:55 am to SlowFlowPro
You are Liberace's crusty gilded plug.
Posted on 3/12/25 at 9:56 am to Warboo
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So "bring manufacturing home" is a inefficient economic plan? How is that plan strait up big gov. redistribution?
The higher prices necessary to make lower level domestic manufacturing viable will be taken from spending in more efficient, advanced economic areas. So that spending in the higher-margin, more developed/advanced economy will go towards the lower-level domestic manufacturing sector.
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In order to increase GDP we need manufacturing to increase. I
Higher-level/advanced manufacturing? Maybe.
For our GDP to really increase, we need the advanced portion of our economy to keep innovating. Much higher margins/money in that area of our GDP.
Which is why I've argued that focusing on lower-level manufacturing (in the paradigm explained above) is going to be -EV in terms of the economy and possibly decrease our SOL. This was Putin's plan between 2014 and 2022 to become "sanction proof" and it derailed their economy, SOL, and PCGDP.
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In order to realistically move toward a balanced budget (some how start paying down the debt) we have to address the trade deficits that have been occurring for decades.
Naw.
Trade deficits aren't always bad and they don't affect our government spending, which is why our deficits are created.
We cannot grow our economy to deal with the deficit in any significant way, either. The math just isn't there.
Posted on 3/12/25 at 9:59 am to SlowFlowPro
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SlowFlowPro
NASA just called and said they were seeking more details of the planet you’re living on presently..
This post was edited on 3/13/25 at 1:44 am
Posted on 3/12/25 at 9:59 am to Y.A. Tittle
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Who do you foresee leading their move to appeal to the middle? When do you anticipate we will see the first signs of this move?
Not SFP (Thank God), but Newsom has already taken a page out of Obama's playbook. He has signaled that he will pretend to be a Centrist by 1) apparently expressing his opposition to biologically-born men participating in women's sports, and 2) talking about how "conservative" his son is.
But much like Obama, that's just phony pandering. Newsom went to China for one week in late 2023. When he came back, literally the first thing of substance Newsom said was that, soon, California would have the ability to "track and monitor" its citizens FROM CRADLE TO GRAVE. BIG BROTHER.
Does that sound like anything a true moderate would really want to do? If Newsom is the Democrat nominee in 2028, I pray to God that he will have to face another young and charismatic figure like J.D. Vance. Vance is MUCH SMARTER than Newsom, and Vance has the truth on his sude.
Posted on 3/12/25 at 10:07 am to KCT
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My question is, did Barack Hussein Obama lay the foundation for the further radicalization of the Democrat Party,
Its the exact opposite
The DIMs were so radicalized that within 2 years of the execution of Saddam Hussein, they were eager to elect another Hussein to be the leader of the free world. Just so that the US could virtue signal our acceptance of the global alliance
Electing Hillary, McCain, or Romney would have just been business as usual. But the DIM party wanted to shock the world. And we've been getting shocked by the world ever since
Plus, we now see that Obama nor Biden were ever really running the country. The radicalized DIM machine was
Posted on 3/12/25 at 10:15 am to SlowFlowPro
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The Obama obsession many of y'all have is fascinating behavior.
Alright guys, you heard it. Discussing Obama is off limits.
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