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re: DeSantis Telling Donors He Won’t Challenge Trump in 2024
Posted on 11/3/22 at 8:57 am to BengalOnTheBay
Posted on 11/3/22 at 8:57 am to BengalOnTheBay
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Can you give me an explanation of what you think Trump should/could have done to prevent states from breaking the law by illegally changing voting laws, making up millions of "mail in ballots," and all the other shenanigans that went on? Particularly when courts refused to rule or didn't rule on lawsuits until after the election was over? Should he have declared martial law? Sent the military in to take over Philly polling stations?
That’s not my job. It’s his job to figure out what to do.
And how do you expect him to stop it as a private citizen rather than as the president?
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Posted on 11/3/22 at 8:58 am to WPBTiger
There goes the election. Welcome back President Joe and Vice President Kamala.
Posted on 11/3/22 at 8:58 am to momentoftruth87
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All of us supreme MAGA just want trump to get what he deserves then Ron is on deck if he wants more than just FL.
and you idiots are exactly the reason why we might lose the White House in 2024 and 2028
Posted on 11/3/22 at 8:58 am to RollTide4Ever
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The elections won't be rigged according to their logic.
Ballot Harvesting is here to stay; fraudulent ballots and those ops who commit the fraud, not so much.
The Left has a problem...the more unstable and insecure people's lives become, the more apt they are to rely on their Religion. I.e., faith that there is life after their likely and imminent suffering death. Like the old saying "there are no Atheists in a foxhole", this is inevitable. Unless the Dems can meld their Ideology (Egalitarian) with Religion, they will be challenged by those who believe that the Left attacks (the must, or change 'Religion' to reflect Egalitarian principles) their Religion. And will fight to the death to defend their God and determine the Souls of their children.
The real fight will not be in the voting booth but in the minds of the folks. Therein, Media will play the pivotal role. The Right now realizes this, with honest people like Musk stepping up.
Posted on 11/3/22 at 8:58 am to Y.A. Tittle
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If we are really hanging out hat on historic precedence as governing, wouldn’t this just as likely present a cautionary tale for him to consider NOT RUNNING at this juncture?
Only because Trump may stand in his way.
I don't know if RDS can beat Trump in a primary (and if he does, Trumpkins will just claim fraud anyway).
But if Trump wins in 2024, 2028 is likely to be a slaughter for the GOP candidate. I just don't see why people are so confident RDS can follow Trump. That hasn't been done since 1988 (and GHWB only got 1 term).
*ETA: and GHWB didn't have to follow Trump
This post was edited on 11/3/22 at 9:13 am
Posted on 11/3/22 at 8:59 am to Adam Banks
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Gavin newsome.
Big Tech will support him on levels making you think Hillary and Joe were republicans
Gavin Newsome is the Dem savior. He will lay low then announce a run for presidency after Biden announces he will not run in 2024. The Democrat establishment will rally around Newsome. The time between Newsome's announcement and being nominated as the Democrat nominee will be minimized as much as possible to minimize campaigning to the left. Once nominated Newsome will pivot hard to the middle during the general election to attract suburban moms and independent swing voters.
Newsome will be very hard to beat. I hate it but it is what it is. The good news is that the GOP nominee (likely Trump) can constantly remind people that Newsome would govern exactly like Biden. So you have a choice, proven successful Trump policies or proven shitty Biden policies.
Posted on 11/3/22 at 8:59 am to Adam Banks
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That’s not my job. It’s his job to figure out what to do.
Or... there was nothing he COULD do.
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And how do you expect him to stop it as a private citizen rather than as the president?
I expect Republicans in state legislatures to get their heads out of their collective asses and be much more aware of what's going on... and they are. There has been a TON of work by states across the country to tighten up voting laws, drastically reduce mail-in ballots, and prevent fraud in other ways.
Why do you think we keep hearing about all the "voter suppression" from Biden and the commies?
Posted on 11/3/22 at 9:01 am to WPBTiger
Dumb move. You gotta stole while the iron is hot. Ask Obama and ask Chris Christie. Gotta go when it’s your time. Can’t wait. shite changes so fast now.
Posted on 11/3/22 at 9:02 am to GumboPot
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Newsome will be very hard to beat.
Why do you think this?
A Governor running for President is basically running on the progress of his state and California has been a dumpster fire during his tenure.
Posted on 11/3/22 at 9:02 am to Mr Boyles
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pugilist
Pugilist is a fancy word for boxer, one who indulges in the noble art of pugilism, or fighting with one's fists.
Be warned when people use the term pugilist or you see it in the paper. Nowadays such a term is often sarcastic in tone and critical of boxing's claims for legitimacy, often suggesting it's essentially savagery masquerading as sport. If you hear "the term "fighter" you can be more certain it's used with approval, or at least without prejudice.
Posted on 11/3/22 at 9:02 am to SlowFlowPro
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He may be signaling the death of his national profile with this decision.
Huh?
Posted on 11/3/22 at 9:03 am to SlowFlowPro
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With all of this "Covid Amnesty" stuff, and a likely GOP win (and all the investigations that may happen), has any national politician raised their profile like Rand Paul? He was the shining light of Congress during CV and has largely been proven right.
Probably only DeSantis, off the top of my head. Hawley is carving out a bit of a niche.
I think Paul could make a great President but for whatever reason (personality, campaign skill, demeanor, etc) he doesn’t seem like the type that gets elected President anymore. He’s a bit like the right of center version of Dennis Kucinich.
I think if DeSantis doesn’t run and Trump does run then the only challenger who may take him on could be Liz Cheney, provided the party will not have kicked her out by then or she runs as “independent.”
So that should be fun.
Posted on 11/3/22 at 9:04 am to Antonio Moss
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A Governor running for President is basically running on the progress of his state and California has been a dumpster fire during his tenure.
Yeah, I don’t know how they get around middle America seeing California as an abject disaster.
Posted on 11/3/22 at 9:04 am to Antonio Moss
Newsome may take back some of the TDS wine moms who would vote for DeSantis.
Posted on 11/3/22 at 9:05 am to SlowFlowPro
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SlowFlowPro
So transparent.
Posted on 11/3/22 at 9:06 am to Antonio Moss
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and California has been a dumpster fire during his tenure.
Media will scrub him up enough to where the casual politico will not know.
Voters don't care anymore about issues, its about stopping the other guy.
Posted on 11/3/22 at 9:07 am to Penrod
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He would not do that unless he was very doubtful about his chances.
No, just being smart considering he’s got an election for Governor of Florida next week. It’s not like Jimmy Sexton negotiating a raise for a HC...
Posted on 11/3/22 at 9:07 am to WPBTiger
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He can walk into the presidency in 2028 without pissing off Trump or Florida,” the source said.
Makes sense to me if it's true. Trump wins in 2024 and then DeSantis has the Trump machine backing him up for 2028 & 2032.
LFG
Posted on 11/3/22 at 9:07 am to Adam Banks
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So all Trump had to do was stop a fraction of the fraud and he was over every agency that could do so, didn’t, and now you want to give him a shot without those advantages?
You are being obtuse. You know the dynamic between POTUS and the administrative state was totally different under Trump versus every modern president except for JFK. Biden, Obama, GWB, Clinton, GHB and in Reagan's second term were all puppets of the administrative state. Not only was Trump fighting against the administrative state under the executive branch, he was fighting many in the legislative and judicial branches too.
Posted on 11/3/22 at 9:08 am to BengalOnTheBay
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Or... there was nothing he COULD do.
Poor little ole Trump.
He just had to sit there and let the Dems take it
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I expect Republicans in state legislatures to get their heads out of their collective asses and be much more aware of what's going on... and they are.
Outside of Georgia borderline helping things what other states in question have enacted significant measures?
What has Pennsylvania done?
What has Michigan done?
What has Wisconsin done?
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