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re: Desantis sounds like Bernie on crony capitalism. Voters dont care about called socialist

Posted on 11/8/26 at 6:13 am to
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
25700 posts
Posted on 11/8/26 at 6:13 am to
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Good- maybe we've finally put an end to the "Trickle Down Economics Theory" that seems to be leading to a billionaire ruling class deciding how much UBI to trickle down to us


Well something has to change. Republicans are on life support. It's time for everyone to consider whether they want Kamala Harris, Jon Ossoff or Josh Shapiro as the next president. Need to choose the most moderate. It's about to be their time.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
16047 posts
Posted on 11/8/26 at 6:18 am to
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The reality is that in modern times, power is not held by the government, its held by those with money. The


The reality is that no matter how much money Elon Musk has, he can't put me in prison or confiscate my property, but the government can.

The government has the power and always has had it. The wealthy "buy" government, specifically because that's where the power is.

Conservatives attempt to solve this problem by reducing the power and scope of the government down to a few essential functions. If you limit the power of government, you limit the power that the wealthy can buy.

Liberals want to expand government on the theory that they think they can control it, and the want to use government to limit the wealthy.

It has never worked and it never will.

The bigger government gets, the more power the wealthy can buy. You're not going to stop them from doing so. No one ever has and no one ever will.

Even in socialist countries like pre-80s China and the USSR, that's what happened.



Posted by DRMPHD
College Station, Texas
Member since Jun 2018
308 posts
Posted on 11/8/26 at 6:19 am to
Milton Friedman on free enterprise v big business Actually, he sounds like Milton
Friedman. I hope desantis means it!

This post was edited on 11/8/26 at 6:21 am
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
29307 posts
Posted on 11/8/26 at 6:21 am to
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The reality is that no matter how much money Elon Musk has, he can't put me in prison or confiscate my property, but the government can.



And that doesn't even require important people in DC. The C student in high school that's now in law enforcement can do that to you.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
16047 posts
Posted on 11/8/26 at 6:28 am to
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Republicans are on life support.


Oh, good grief.

24 months ago this board was full of MAGA crowing that no Democrat would ever win an election again. 'Muh 'Merca 'Fust/MAGA had the mandate of all the people, the Democrats were done forever.

Am I the only one who remembers that here?

That wasn't true and neither is what you just posted.

People for some reason don't seem to understand that the electorate has shifted away from voting for somebody. They only vote against somebody currently.

And by "the electorate," I don't mean the hardline MAGAs on one side and the blue hairs on the other. They just cancel each other out. I mean the middle vote that actually decides the election.

After aaaaaaaaaalllllllllllllllll the investigations, no one has proven that 2020 was lost due to fraud (that's different than saying there was no fraud...there absolutely was, we have video evidence of it...but that's different than fraud being the reason Trump lost).

i know it goes against the MAGA dogma, but just for a minute can we consider the possibility that Trump simply lost the election?

So he won in 2016, beating Clinton. He lost in 2020. He won in 2024. Now this in 2026.

The electorate is simply not happy with anybody and they are just firing everyone every time they get a chance to do it. It's always been that way to a degree, but I think it's more so that way lately.

They'll probably fire Republicans again in the POTUS election in 2028 but after that, they'll likely be ready to fire the Democrats again.

Especially if this beating gets rid of MAGA and reorganizes the R party around some adults.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
25700 posts
Posted on 11/8/26 at 6:32 am to
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They'll probably fire Republicans again in the POTUS election in 2028 but after that, they'll likely be ready to fire the Democrats again.


I agree.

It is a problem when you lose so many seats in the senate. We can't ignore that fact. It could take twelve years or more to begin to straighten that out.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
102261 posts
Posted on 11/8/26 at 6:40 am to
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Especially if this beating gets rid of MAGA and reorganizes the R party around some adults.



Yeah cause the R party has always been run by adults and not a bunch of dopes before OMB saved them
Posted by RohanGonzales
Pronoun: Whatever
Member since Apr 2024
15091 posts
Posted on 11/8/26 at 7:15 am to
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Especially if this beating gets rid of MAGA and reorganizes the R party around some adults.


Bush 1, Dole, Bush 2, McCain, Romney

frick that.

This country deserves to suffer. I will enjoy it. Give it 5 years, choices like the one for LA mayor will be there for everybody
Posted by AUCom96
Alabama
Member since May 2020
7425 posts
Posted on 11/8/26 at 7:18 am to
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Especially if this beating gets rid of MAGA and reorganizes the R party around some adults.


So are you preferring corrupt warmongers like the Bushes to replace our current corrupt warmonger? Or CIA puppets like Reagan?

There are no adults in DC, just rats.
Posted by RohanGonzales
Pronoun: Whatever
Member since Apr 2024
15091 posts
Posted on 11/8/26 at 7:21 am to
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There are no adults in DC, just rats.


So let's elect socialists!!!

No matter how popular they get, they will STILL run out of other people's money soon enough for my enjoyment.
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
8729 posts
Posted on 11/8/26 at 7:25 am to
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This country deserves to suffer. I will enjoy it. Give it 5 years,


I saw recently that New York passed a law that allows them to take the property that has been "negligently" maintained. They are going to have 400,000 units available for families at low cost.

So...they are going to start taking other people's owned property. Giving it 5 years may lead to the ruin of various states including Texas for which they will never recover.

It is scary times.
Posted by mudshuvl05
Member since Nov 2023
3466 posts
Posted on 11/8/26 at 8:56 am to
it's called 'State Capitalism' and the fathers of socialism regarded it as must have precursor to full blown socialism. it's all coming together for them, for now.
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
59698 posts
Posted on 11/8/26 at 9:03 am to
Well, it's been what, over 30 years since the wall fell and then China went to a bastardized communism that has free enterprise in it.

So a generation or two grew up without knowing the harms or evils of socialism/communism. But we think if we just scream those words, it will resonate when it doesn't.

Like Limbaugh said, we have to keep teaching the same things over and over.

Frankly, the election reminded me of 92 when Bush was losing on the economy so his team started calling Clinton liberal all the time as if they were saying boo. Didn't work.
Posted by jlnoles79
Member since Jan 2014
14882 posts
Posted on 11/8/26 at 9:20 am to
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MAGA is on life support


FIFY
Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
4757 posts
Posted on 11/8/26 at 9:49 am to
DeSantis is saying the “out loud” part quietly.

The system is broken. It’s fundamentally impossible for a “conservative” platform to fix a broken system. You have to advocate for change, you can’t keep a status quo or argue to go backwards.

You have to go “forward”, but what “forward” looks like is very different across the ideologies.
Posted by lepdagod
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
6531 posts
Posted on 11/8/26 at 9:53 am to
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Socialism, by definition, is no private property at all (for anyone)


Wrong …
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
42420 posts
Posted on 11/8/26 at 9:56 am to
Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
50395 posts
Posted on 11/8/26 at 9:57 am to
That's another shot at Trump and I love him even more for it.

Republicans really fricked up by not going to DeSantis in 2024.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
18411 posts
Posted on 11/9/26 at 10:26 am to
Nah, continue to harp on Socialism and communism as the evils they are.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
18411 posts
Posted on 11/9/26 at 10:27 am to
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leading to a billionaire ruling class


Muh "billionaires...." Just be honest. The only billionaires you dipshit libs have a problem with are conservative billionaires. You're perfectly fine with your Democrat billionaires.
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