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re: Depending On Who You Listen To Only 46% - 48% Of America Pays Taxes

Posted on 6/10/19 at 9:37 pm to
Posted by DyeHardDylan
Member since Nov 2011
7742 posts
Posted on 6/10/19 at 9:37 pm to
Well i think that number should be much lower. I don’t think anyone should pay any income tax.
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 6/10/19 at 9:38 pm to
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Are you going to stay and pay for all these uneducated, low IQ, unskilled people to sit on their arse all day and get free stuff? 



The issue with these posts is that it assumes all of these happen to be illegal immigrants. It never reflects the fact that many of these people are already here is the US (as in, people who are born American and live here).

I wanted a solution to the immigration crisis as well. But here's the difference between us: I don't have to resort name-calling or other bad rhetoric just to get my point across.


You dont need to be toxic about Illegal immigration. It's illegal, it needs to stopped, end of story. The fact that you feel the need to have a "holier than thou" edge to it only highlights your bigotry.

You don't even acknowledge that the citizens of your own nation are just as uneducated as some of these immigrants. Outside of being American, certain people are just as bad as the illegal immigrants.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
99153 posts
Posted on 6/10/19 at 9:41 pm to
One thing Obama said in his 8 years in office that I agreed with.

Everyone should have skin in the game.

When you have that many people NOT paying income taxes, they don't give a shite about tax policy.

Everyone should pay at least $100/month in income taxes and no refundable credits. No one should make money filing their taxes.

Oh, and withholding should be illegal. People should have to write a physical check (or debit payment) to the g every fricking month.
This post was edited on 6/10/19 at 9:45 pm
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11195 posts
Posted on 6/10/19 at 9:56 pm to
Damn, so there is hope lol
Posted by Jake_LaMotta
Coral Gables
Member since Sep 2017
5700 posts
Posted on 6/10/19 at 9:58 pm to
Go virtue signal somewhere else.

Illegal Immigrants are destroying this country.

Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 6/10/19 at 10:17 pm to
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Go virtue signal somewhere else. 


You dont have to demonize a group just because you dont like them.

My bigger concern is that we have businesses willing to break the law to hire these people. Yet none of places ever get punished. Isnt that strange.

Also, even if we manage to seal the Southern border off, has it ever occurred to you that the the largest influx of immigrants actually come in legally. If we don't create some immigration LEGISLATION then nothing matters. All it would take is a Democratic President to either sabotage the wall or influencing less restrictive immigration procedures.
Posted by Jake_LaMotta
Coral Gables
Member since Sep 2017
5700 posts
Posted on 6/10/19 at 10:35 pm to
An American with a 7th or 8th grade education is so far ahead of many Illegal Immigrants.

Hanging dry wall or painting isn’t a skill. 10 year olds can do that.

I am not against Legal Immigrants.

We don’t need one more Third World Immigrant here. We have plenty already.

In fact we don’t need Immigrants of any kind we have so many Illegal Immigrants here.
Posted by mauser
Orange Beach
Member since Nov 2008
21730 posts
Posted on 6/11/19 at 6:36 am to
To be fair we all pay sales taxes. Not saying they pay their share of taxes, they don't.

I think raising sales taxes on non-essentials and eliminating income tax for people making 50K or less may be a good idea.
Posted by tjv305
Member since May 2015
12520 posts
Posted on 6/11/19 at 7:02 am to
You could get a job under the table like the illegals do . You try to convince everyone to go on strike . If just half of the workers quit things would fall apart and changes would be made .
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37582 posts
Posted on 6/11/19 at 7:10 am to
What are you suggesting?

My suggestion is to stop the importation of migrant hoards with no appreciable skill, champion work fare as opposed to welfare, and cut everyone’s taxes to only let the federal government pay for duties enumerated in the constitution, giving power back to the states. Onus must be placed on individual responsibility and freedom.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124186 posts
Posted on 6/11/19 at 7:22 am to
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certain people are just as bad as the illegal immigrants.
Certain people (i.e., the worst out of a >300million population) are "just as bad" as "the" illegal immigrants? Come on! That's a pretty ugly statement. Unintended I'm sure. Nonetheless, it's worth a look before you accuse others of being "holier than thou"?

A nasty element of illegal immigration is those involved are skipping line in front of, slowing and encumbering LEGAL immigration. Legal immigrants are people just like illegals are people. Legal applicants for legal immigration are every bit as good, deserving, and desirable as illegals. Perhaps, just perhaps, even more so!

Another nasty element is, by its very nature, illegality forces migrants to deal with very evil cartels. That translates to extortion, rape, trafficking, and further enablement of drug transport. But migrants are deliberately drawn into those risks by outdated, highly counterproductive US immigration laws combined with the allure of US wealth. Dems know that. CofC Repubs know that. Neither care.

Still another is we have no clue who actually is accessing our country. That is problematic.
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
17060 posts
Posted on 6/11/19 at 7:46 am to
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Yeah but like 20% pay 90% of the actual percent of taxes relative to percent of income and percent of total percentage

Point being what? Taxes have to come out of a bucket. It doesn't matter how the money is distributed in that bucket. The same amount still "needs" to come out.
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 6/11/19 at 8:44 am to
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Jake_LaMotta


The problem is that the majority of people dont have the funds to move.

The other issue is the quality of live of the Average American versus that of the countries your moving to. In general, most countries (even some Western ones) have a lower quality of life for the average citizen. That's one of the reasons they can keep taxes so low. The countries that dont have much to trade often rely on tourism as well.

You earned your wealth in the US and now you feel that your above paying taxes. Every country does something we dont like.

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Are you going to stay and pay for all these uneducated, low IQ, unskilled people to sit on their arse all day and get free stuff? 



I'm sure there are absolutely no white people who fit this description. None at all. Wow what an ignorant worldview from the tolerant Christians.

Well guess what? I'm going to stay in America. And I don't mind paying taxes because the USA is the greatest country on Earth. We need reforms, but even on our worse day we are better than all of the countries you escape to.
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
51809 posts
Posted on 6/11/19 at 8:47 am to
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I am 49 white, work about 57 hrs a week. Make 80k and pay a shite load in taxes. Trump supporter.





#REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 6/11/19 at 8:51 am to
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Point being what? Taxes have to come out of a bucket. It doesn't matter how the money is distributed in that bucket. The same amount still "needs" to come out


We can start as someone suggested by making the tax code fixed so that you can never receive a refund. At best you just break even. Nobody should be profiting off the tax system.

Also, the disability system needs a TOTAL OVERHAUL in the US. We have way too many people "disabled".
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52916 posts
Posted on 6/11/19 at 8:52 am to
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Can’t imagine being so dumb to do such. You would be as dumb as they are to do that.



Try harder.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52916 posts
Posted on 6/11/19 at 8:56 am to
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In general, most countries (even some Western ones) have a lower quality of life for the average citizen. That's one of the reasons they can keep taxes so low


You do realize we are one of the lowest taxed nations in the world right? As high as our taxes are, we are still lower than most of the world, considering most of the world is very socialist in nature. It's why, we conservatives, fight against more taxes. So we don't turn into these lower standard countries. More taxes does not equal better quality of life.

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You earned your wealth in the US and now you feel that your above paying taxes. Every country does something we dont like.



Agree. For all of the progressivism that i loathe here in the US, we aren't as bad as most of the world.

quote:


I'm sure there are absolutely no white people who fit this description. None at all. Wow what an ignorant worldview from the tolerant Christians.


He didn't mention skin color at all. Maybe you should stop focusing on that.

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. And I don't mind paying taxes because the USA is the greatest country on Earth. We need reforms, but even on our worse day we are better than all of the countries you escape to.


Agreed. Though are ideas of reforms are drastically different.
Posted by Jake_LaMotta
Coral Gables
Member since Sep 2017
5700 posts
Posted on 6/11/19 at 8:58 am to
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We need reforms, but even on our worse day we are better than all of the countries you escape to.


You seem to be having a hard time understanding this. We won't be better than these countries in the future if the current Illegal Immigrant invasion continues. That was the whole point of my post.
Posted by yatesdog38
in your head rent free
Member since Sep 2013
12737 posts
Posted on 6/11/19 at 9:56 am to
why would you go to a country that where you can be extradited. Move to Morocco, Maldives, Vietnam, madagascar, mauritania, montenegro, or Samoa. I guess you could go to Morocco for a while get a clean passport and then take a boat to spain.

ya'll dumb. watch more spy movies
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
20603 posts
Posted on 6/11/19 at 12:20 pm to
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making the tax code fixed so that you can never receive a refund


Well that doesn't sound like it could ever be abused at all
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