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re: Death Penalty: Yeah or Nay?
Posted on 1/13/23 at 8:35 am to winkchance
Posted on 1/13/23 at 8:35 am to winkchance
quote:Gas chamber?
If found guilty, let it rip.
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Posted on 1/13/23 at 8:39 am to Lutcher Lad
I am not against the death penalty, but a lifetime in a 6x6 cell alone seems worse than death.
Posted on 1/13/23 at 9:15 am to Big L
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I’m not for it….came to that conclusion after pondering abortion, which I’m also against. I just don’t think we should have the ability to end a life unless it’s in the act of defense
But you need to sit back and reflect on a HUGE difference between these two issues.
The two are only comparable by the ending of life…otherwise they are polar opposites.
Posted on 1/13/23 at 9:15 am to Lutcher Lad
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I must say, I didn't even know we still had the death penalty in Louisiana. Can't remember the last criminal put to death for murder.
Not directed at you op but this is one reason it is in-effective in Louisiana.
Posted on 1/13/23 at 9:16 am to Lutcher Lad
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Are you for the death penalty? Yes or No.
Yes. Maximum 5 years incarcerated before services rendered to the convicted.
Posted on 1/13/23 at 9:17 am to winkchance
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Should be a no brainers as these people are not going to be rehabilitated.
Our penal system is not set up to rehabilitate anyone, so that's not the issue.
But if one is a Christian, then they know that anyone can be saved at any time, regardless of how evil they have been. God does that on His timeline, though.
This post was edited on 1/13/23 at 9:17 am
Posted on 1/13/23 at 9:21 am to Lutcher Lad
If you harm a child you should die.
but I'm not religious at all, so frick em.
but I'm not religious at all, so frick em.
Posted on 1/13/23 at 9:31 am to bigberg2000
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I dont think it is a great deterrent however.
It's a pretty good deterrent for at least one person
Posted on 1/13/23 at 9:33 am to Crimson1st
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But you need to sit back and reflect on a HUGE difference between these two issues.
The two are only comparable by the ending of life…otherwise they are polar opposites.
This is the truth, personally I've wrestled with this a good deal and at the end there is a distinct difference between taking an innocent life, like with abortion and making a judgement on punishment for someone who made a clear and conscious decision to violently take another life.
The latter is someone who knew the laws, understood the potential consequences and then made a clear decision to initiate a violent act and take a life. They don't value life and their punishment should reflect their own attitudes and actions.
This post was edited on 1/13/23 at 9:35 am
Posted on 1/13/23 at 9:35 am to Lutcher Lad
In cases of absolute certainty? Yes.
I'm also for it if someone (including DA, cops, etc) can be shown to have purposely lied to obtain a conviction getting the same sentence the person wrongly convicted received (thus, if they lied, falsified evidence, etc. and someone was sentenced to death over it then they get the death penalty as well).
I'm also for it if someone (including DA, cops, etc) can be shown to have purposely lied to obtain a conviction getting the same sentence the person wrongly convicted received (thus, if they lied, falsified evidence, etc. and someone was sentenced to death over it then they get the death penalty as well).
Posted on 1/13/23 at 9:36 am to Lutcher Lad
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Death Penalty: Yeah or Neigh?
I'm in favor of it in theory, but frick, I have a REALLY hard time believing our corrupt arse government is capable of fairly and/or competently administering it.
Posted on 1/13/23 at 9:38 am to Lutcher Lad
I don't want the government involved in killing anyone.
Posted on 1/13/23 at 9:39 am to SCLibertarian
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I don't want the government involved in killing anyone
Hallefrickingluiah!
Posted on 1/13/23 at 9:41 am to SCLibertarian
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I don't want the government involved in killing anyone.
Well, it's not really the government in these cases, it's a jury of your peers that decide on the punishment, the state employees just perform the execution.
To your larger point, it would be great if our government would stop sponsoring mass scale death through constant engagement in war.
This post was edited on 1/13/23 at 9:42 am
Posted on 1/13/23 at 9:42 am to RCDfan1950
RCDfan1950
Good take. Very reminiscent of the Fr Brown investigative novels by GK Chesterton.
Good take. Very reminiscent of the Fr Brown investigative novels by GK Chesterton.
Posted on 1/13/23 at 9:45 am to Lutcher Lad
I’m in favor of it in specific cases with hard evidence.
If theh find your semen inside a dead kid, you get the chair.
If you’re in camera shooting a store clerk, you get the chair
If they find 25 dead bodies in your yard dating to when you’re living there, you get the chair.
For me it’s more the level of evidence than is this murder particularly bad. All murders are bad.
If theh find your semen inside a dead kid, you get the chair.
If you’re in camera shooting a store clerk, you get the chair
If they find 25 dead bodies in your yard dating to when you’re living there, you get the chair.
For me it’s more the level of evidence than is this murder particularly bad. All murders are bad.
Posted on 1/13/23 at 10:17 am to SammyTiger
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For me it’s more the level of evidence than is this murder particularly bad. All murders are bad.
Thats great in theory, but in practice its impossible to legislate. Where do you draw the line for sufficient evidence? There will eventually be case right at the margin, where some people believe there is no doubt and others aren't so sure. You can't draft a law with an acceptable bright line.
Posted on 1/13/23 at 10:29 am to Lutcher Lad
Neigh. I was fine with it until I attended a program at LSU Law with speakers from the Innocence Project who had spent years (sometimes decades) in prison until DNA evidence exonerated them. I don't trust the government enough to put a citizen to death.
Posted on 1/13/23 at 10:31 am to Mickey Goldmill
Yeah.
It should be rare, but never off the table at least for negotiation reasoning.
When the outcome is clear you should always have the option.
It should be rare, but never off the table at least for negotiation reasoning.
When the outcome is clear you should always have the option.
Posted on 1/13/23 at 10:32 am to Lutcher Lad
No.
Easy way out for them. Make them sit in a cell for the rest of their life.
Plus, do you trust the Justice system? I don’t.
Easy way out for them. Make them sit in a cell for the rest of their life.
Plus, do you trust the Justice system? I don’t.
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