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re: Daniel Penny’s jury is deadlocked in the verdict. Update: Manslaughter charge dismissed..
Posted on 12/6/24 at 3:20 pm to PaperTiger
Posted on 12/6/24 at 3:20 pm to PaperTiger
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How is that a win for the DA?
2nd bite at the apple.
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Posted on 12/6/24 at 3:21 pm to Athis
I dont know if Trump can technically pardon Penny but if he can he absolutely should, then give him a medal
Posted on 12/6/24 at 3:25 pm to scottydoesntknow
quote:its a state charge, you would need the governor
I dont know if Trump can technically pardon Penny but if he can he absolutely should, then give him a medal
Posted on 12/6/24 at 3:26 pm to Rebel
ETA, never mind, I misread. The DA dismissed the charges. Yeah, it's a ploy by them, but hopefully there's enough hold outs on the jury for this guy not to bite on it.
This post was edited on 12/6/24 at 3:29 pm
Posted on 12/6/24 at 3:30 pm to Y.A. Tittle
But he wasn’t acquitted of manslaughter. That charge was dismissed. (Not sure with or without prejudice)
Judge is basically asking jury to split the baby.
Judge is basically asking jury to split the baby.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 3:32 pm to Rebel
I caught where I was wrong before you. 
I thought they had gotten an actual jury ruling on THAT charge, and were still holding out on the other, which would have been seen as nothing but good news for him. I still think, it shouldn't be seen as a negative development for him.
I thought they had gotten an actual jury ruling on THAT charge, and were still holding out on the other, which would have been seen as nothing but good news for him. I still think, it shouldn't be seen as a negative development for him.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 3:32 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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ETA, never mind, I misread. The DA dismissed the charges. Yeah, it's a ploy by them, but hopefully there's enough hold outs on the jury for this guy not to bite on it.
Does NY not have lesser included charges? Can they only deliberate on one charge at a time? That's my confusion.
It seems the criminally negligent homicide was billed, but they're making them come back for just that?
Posted on 12/6/24 at 3:34 pm to Rebel
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That charge was dismissed. (Not sure with or without prejudice)
They sat the jury so double jeopardy should attach.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 3:34 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Does NY not have lesser included charges? Can they only deliberate on one charge at a time? That's my confusion.
Yeah, I don't know about that either.
I'd like to think there would be at least one or two jurors able to sniff out some possible frickery afoot based on this either way.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 3:36 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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I'd like to think there would be at least one or two jurors able to sniff out some possible frickery afoot based on this either way.
Napkin "math" but I have to imagine there is one holdout in perpetuity/across the board because they didn't deliberate that long.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 3:52 pm to Athis
Won't happen in NYC, but some locale of a more nobler disposition should make a statue of the choke-out. Same with Gary Plauche.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 4:11 pm to SirWinston
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love Handsome Dan.
Mate, I’ll be skipping beers with you. Have one on me though.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 4:13 pm to scottydoesntknow
He can’t but he can cut push to cut funding to NY as punishment for targeting heroes.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 6:13 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Does NY not have lesser included charges? Can they only deliberate on one charge at a time? That's my confusion.
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Before deliberations began Tuesday afternoon, Wiley told the jury that it must come to a unanimous decision on the manslaughter charge before it would be allowed to consider criminally negligent homicide. They were also instructed to decide whether Penny’s actions caused Neely’s death and, if so, whether he had acted recklessly and in an unjustified manner.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 6:19 pm to FreddieMac
quote:Who on earth WANTS a guilty verdict?
Those wanting a guilty verdict are nuts
That’s insane.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 6:22 pm to Athis
Praise the Lord!
Posted on 12/6/24 at 6:50 pm to UncleFestersLegs
This case is over or a mistrial. If not, the judge and Bragg should be disbarred.
Posted on 12/6/24 at 6:58 pm to Athis
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