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re: Coworker got the Moderna shots in February
Posted on 8/23/21 at 11:17 am to deltaland
Posted on 8/23/21 at 11:17 am to deltaland
The vaccines don’t give you covid antibodies.
They give you vaccine antibodies.
You and your family are idiots who wasted their money.
They give you vaccine antibodies.
You and your family are idiots who wasted their money.
This post was edited on 8/23/21 at 4:47 pm
Posted on 8/23/21 at 11:39 am to tiggerthetooth
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Idiot. There's no other way to say it. Anyone who calls it "gene therapy" is not to be taken seriously.
Moderna, in their own SEC filings, calls it gene therapy. I guess we shouldn't take them seriously.
https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1682852/000168285220000017/mrna-20200630.htm#i8ebe2c9c2ccd487c851f72dd23b1630b_121
Posted on 8/23/21 at 11:45 am to theunknownknight
Its hiding in the bone marrow. Guerrilla warfare style.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 11:46 am to deltaland
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This is why positive cases are rising. Many people who got vaccinated early on are likely no more protected at this point than a non vaccinated person
What about hospitalizations?
Posted on 8/23/21 at 11:47 am to deltaland
I'm pretty sure vaccine antibodies and natural antibodies are not the same thing. The test is for natural only so they vaccine ones wouldn't show up
Posted on 8/23/21 at 11:50 am to deltaland
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Her and her husband both. This weekend they went to get the antibody test and neither of them have any Covid antibodies. 6 months and the vaccine is completely worthless
That's not how our immune system works. Our bodies don't keep producing antibodies absent the viral theat. However, our T and B cells remember the viral threat and will crank up production if the threat returns. Antibodies don't live forever.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 11:52 am to Pelican fan99
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You and are family are idiots who wasted their money.
What money? Or did you get yours on the street corner by the hooker you use?
Alabama, 98% of all deaths in the last six months have been non vaccinated.
The majority of patients in ICU beds and on ventilators are Non Vaccinated.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 11:56 am to notsince98
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T-cell immunity is more important but there is no data on vaccines and t-cell immunity.
You moron.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 11:58 am to OccamsStubble
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How many times must it be pointed out that antibodies ALWAYS disappear after a vaccination.
And yet somehow this argument is used against natural immunity.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 11:59 am to bluedragon
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What money? Or did you get yours on the street corner by the hooker you use? Alabama, 98% of all deaths in the last six months have been non vaccinated. The majority of patients in ICU beds and on ventilators are Non Vaccinated.
Cool.
Now post the numbers for young healthy people
Posted on 8/23/21 at 12:00 pm to crazy4lsu
Even crazy is losing patience.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 12:01 pm to deltaland
Did they get both doses of Moderna, one month apart?
Posted on 8/23/21 at 12:03 pm to Supravol22
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Post your medical degree since you know so much about how vaccines work
IF that were a requirement, Facebook and the Alphabet Networks would have nobody talking about Covid or the Vaax.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 12:04 pm to theunknownknight
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So the mRNA is transcribed within the cell creating a foreign protein that triggers the cell to notify helper T cells into action creating B cells from Plasma cells and cytotoxic T Cells from Memory T cells.
B cells aren't created from plasma cells. The memory T cell response is far more complicated.
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I think what is happening is the proteins being transcribed aren’t correct creating weak antibodies from the B cells with a slightly incorrect confirmation on their variable ends
Or they are created for one specific immunologic antigen tied to viral pathogenicity, which is why we see less severe disease in patients with the mRNA vaccination.
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This leads to the antibodies, when created after being exposed to COVID being hijacked into replication
This makes no sense.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 12:13 pm to deltaland
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6 months and the vaccine is completely worthless
Antibodies are not the end-all be-all of immunity. I saw a virologist the other day say he is against the 8 month booster being pushed by CDC. He says it is not unusual at all for antibody levels to decrease after several months. Antibody levels tell us nothing about helper T-cells, killer T-cells, etc.
In fact, watch the video and see what he (and another virologist) say about it. By the way, both of these people are professors of virology. The lady is a professor at Columbia. These aren't quacks.
Watch from 5 minutes to 10 minutes in for the full exchange about it.
Youtube
Posted on 8/23/21 at 12:17 pm to AUstar
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These aren't quacks.
No, but they will be treated as such if they don't toe the company line.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 12:21 pm to deltaland
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Her and her husband both. This weekend they went to get the antibody test and neither of them have any Covid antibodies.
Have they been exposed to any COVID ppl in those 6 months? If not then it’s not surprising that there are no circulating antibodies. The body responded to the vaccine and then the immune response went into the lymph nodes as memory cells ready to respond when they see covid again.
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This is why positive cases are rising. Many people who got vaccinated early on are likely no more protected at this point than a non vaccinated person
Incorrect
Posted on 8/23/21 at 12:21 pm to AUstar
They're not doing this just on antibodies. I think they're looking heavily at the Israeli data that shows increasing case rates with time from their vaccination.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 12:21 pm to OccamsStubble
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Please post evidence of this. May be accurate, but I’ve never seen it.
The CEO of each vaccine, the FDA, the CDC, and the health officials from multiple governments have approved continued boosters. Is that evidence enough for you that this so-called vaccine doesn't produce memory cells for CoVID?
Also, the CDC specifically cited 3 studies, in which they used to OK the booster approval. That's proof, right?
Posted on 8/23/21 at 12:22 pm to deltaland
....but they have their papers, so doesn't really matter if it is effective.
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