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COVID facts from Nate Silver - which states fared better or worse?

Posted on 10/1/23 at 8:39 am
Posted by Big_Sur
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 10/1/23 at 8:39 am
https://www.natesilver.net/p/the-2-key-facts-about-us-covid-policy

The facts are these:
- Until vaccines became available, there was little difference in COVID death rates between blue states and red states.

- After vaccines became available, there were clear differences, with red states having higher death rates, almost certainly as a result of lower vaccine uptake among Republicans.

In other words, the vaccines made a real and obvious dent in COVID, whereas the effect of other NPIs — such as school and business closures, masks, and social distancing — is much less clear.
You can observe this by looking at state-level data.

The table below compares the number of COVID deaths per capita up through Feb. 1, 2021 with the number of deaths since then; this date represents roughly when vaccines became readily available to the most vulnerable groups.



Up through February 2021, there was little discernible pattern in whether red states or blue states
were worse affected by COVID. Since then — post-vaccines — the top of the list is dominated by red states. It’s a big difference; since Feb. 2021, the average death rate in red states is 35 percent higher than in blue states. The state with the highest COVID death rate during that period is West Virginia, which gave Donald Trump his second-largest margin of victory. The jurisdiction with the lowest COVID death rate since Feb. 2021 is Washington, D.C., which gave Joe Biden his largest winning margin. There are some exceptions to the pattern — Utah did quite well, for instance — but not many.
Posted by CapperVin
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 10/1/23 at 8:41 am to
Duck
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
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Posted on 10/1/23 at 8:41 am to
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COVID facts


Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 10/1/23 at 8:42 am to
Does the vaccine stop you from getting COVID?

No

Does the vaccine stop you from spreading COVID?

No


Then, by definition, it’s not a vaccine.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112553 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 8:43 am to
Well stated. I am already ready for my 2nd fall booster.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 10/1/23 at 8:44 am to
So, the whole damn thing was engineered by democRAts in order to genocide Republicans.


Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
21182 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 8:44 am to
It’s more like the flu shot. You can still get the flu, but the theory is maybe the shot will have taught your immune system to fight it better.

That’s why the flu shot (and maybe even now phenomena is available?) is encouraged for elderly people.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
21182 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 8:45 am to
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So, the whole damn thing was engineered by democRAts in order to genocide Republicans.


Umm…sure.

LINK
Posted by msudawg1200
Central Mississippi
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 10/1/23 at 8:46 am to
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Well stated. I am already ready for my 2nd fall booster.

2nd? This should be about the 9th or 10th
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71345 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 8:48 am to
Cool, definitely worth sacrificing an entire generation of school kids mental sanity and trampling over our civil rights.
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
12868 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 8:48 am to
So overall death rates, per capita, went up post-vaccine?

If you want a quick reference instead of looking at individual comparisons just look at how many triple-digit vs. Quad there are. But there are many specific instances of going down on the post list but the value is higher.
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
7639 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 8:49 am to
Alex Berenson addressed this in his Twitter feed. Made Silver look like a fool. This OP, just like Silver himself, is pure fraud.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 10/1/23 at 8:51 am to

The problem is deeper than we knew.

Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
21182 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 8:51 am to
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school kids mental sanity


This is probably the most under-talked about result of the lockdowns. The year long non-stop fear mongering and veiled social media shaming of kids who wouldn’t wear a mask screwed up a ton of school kids, especially those who were jr high-high school age.

Our politicians and media who went along with this, as well as POS celebrities, should be flogged.
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
priapism survivor
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 10/1/23 at 8:51 am to
When someone dies from the vaccine, how is that classified? Covid death, vaccine death, or other (blood clot, heart attack, etc)?
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68060 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 8:52 am to
The obvious criticism will be what was defined as a covid death.

I had no problem with people taking the Vax if they wanted and big problems with it being forced.

Did they separate by race as well in those red states? You mention republicans, but I knew of several black people who refused to get the Vax.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68060 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 8:59 am to
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When someone dies from the vaccine, how is that classified?
99.9% of those are actually drug overdoses, suicides, cancer, heart disease, etc. I know yall are hoping for one win as a vax death but you're about 0-223 with those supposed deaths posted on this site.
Posted by tes fou
Member since Feb 2014
838 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 9:00 am to
Newsflash the numbers were all bullshite.
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
11797 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 9:02 am to
What are the obesity demographics by states

What are the diabetic demographic rates by state.

Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54202 posts
Posted on 10/1/23 at 9:06 am to
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You can still get the flu, but the theory is maybe the shot will have taught your immune system to fight it better.



I've gotten the flu shots the last two flu seasons. CDC said it was a different strain of flu from one season to the next. However, the same shot was given for both of the strains. Nurse admitted when I asked her if the shot for last year was the same medicine I get the year before. Said it was.

I really do believe it's all bullshite.
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