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Cigarette ban- FOR LIFE
Posted on 8/3/26 at 11:52 am
Posted on 8/3/26 at 11:52 am
New York Plunges New Depths
At the end of May, the New York State Assembly introduced Assembly Bill A11509. The proposal would permanently prohibit anyone born after December 31, 2007, from purchasing tobacco or nicotine products for the rest of their lives.
In practice, the State is claiming permanent ownership over the autonomy of part of its population. It is deciding today that these individuals will never be considered capable of making their own choices. The distinction it creates is not based on any assessment of individual responsibility or capacity. It rests solely on an arbitrary date of birth.
This variety of age-based smoking ban has become a growing trend around the world. New Zealand was the first country to attempt it in 2022, introducing the world's first nationwide generational tobacco ban. It reversed course in 2024 after concerns the policy was fueling the black market, strengthening organized crime, and reducing tax revenue.
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At the end of May, the New York State Assembly introduced Assembly Bill A11509. The proposal would permanently prohibit anyone born after December 31, 2007, from purchasing tobacco or nicotine products for the rest of their lives.
In practice, the State is claiming permanent ownership over the autonomy of part of its population. It is deciding today that these individuals will never be considered capable of making their own choices. The distinction it creates is not based on any assessment of individual responsibility or capacity. It rests solely on an arbitrary date of birth.
This variety of age-based smoking ban has become a growing trend around the world. New Zealand was the first country to attempt it in 2022, introducing the world's first nationwide generational tobacco ban. It reversed course in 2024 after concerns the policy was fueling the black market, strengthening organized crime, and reducing tax revenue.
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Posted on 8/3/26 at 11:53 am to djmed
NY is rapidly becoming a commie state.
Posted on 8/3/26 at 11:54 am to djmed
I would love it if no one ever smoked tobacco, a known and very predictable carcinogen, for life. But having a law forcing it seems somehow wrong.
Posted on 8/3/26 at 11:55 am to djmed
But they can smoke weed?
Make it make sense.
Make it make sense.
Posted on 8/3/26 at 11:58 am to TrueTiger
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But they can smoke weed?
Smokeless cannabis products are infinitely more healthy than smokeless tobacco products
Posted on 8/3/26 at 11:58 am to theballguy
I've never smoked a cigarette. But I started buying cigarettes when I was 8 years old. My dad smoked and gave me some change to put in the machine and pull the button that said 'Salem' and then bring it back to him. The machine never asked for my I.D.
Posted on 8/3/26 at 12:00 pm to djmed
They/islamists want to completely take over...what better way than to install a muz and make others that don't adhere to their beliefs...miserable...to the point of leaving NY or anywhere else.
Posted on 8/3/26 at 12:01 pm to MoarKilometers
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Smokeless cannabis products are infinitely more healthy than smokeless tobacco products
Nicotine is perfectly safe even if addictive
Posted on 8/3/26 at 12:02 pm to Zach
Same for me when I was a kid. I remember buying them directly from the cashier.
Posted on 8/3/26 at 12:06 pm to djmed
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New Zealand was the first country to attempt it in 2022, introducing the world's first nationwide generational tobacco ban. It reversed course in 2024 after concerns the policy was fueling the black market, strengthening organized crime, and reducing tax revenue.
NY already has a big black market for tobacco due to the sky high taxes on tobacco products. All of that money doesn't get used for smoker's health though.
Posted on 8/3/26 at 12:08 pm to djmed
For the greater good.
This post was edited on 8/3/26 at 12:09 pm
Posted on 8/3/26 at 12:09 pm to theballguy
There are so many laws in this country, from local to state to national, that infringe on our rights but people want more and more laws. They get mad if Congress is not putting out new laws, say they are doing nothing.
It is very sad. If you are not infringing on someone else's life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness, then there should be no law banning such thing.
It is very sad. If you are not infringing on someone else's life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness, then there should be no law banning such thing.
Posted on 8/3/26 at 12:10 pm to djmed
Ahh yes, prohibition.... that thing that never works.
Posted on 8/3/26 at 12:10 pm to djmed
The UK just did this as well, I believe.
Posted on 8/3/26 at 12:14 pm to djmed
Prohibition.
It worked last time.
It worked last time.
Posted on 8/3/26 at 12:16 pm to Zach
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that said 'Salem'
those sucked. KOOL were the best menthols.
Posted on 8/3/26 at 12:16 pm to theballguy
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Same for me when I was a kid. I remember buying them directly from the cashier.
And the packs were so cheap....between 50 cents and a dollar. Today they're like 10 bucks.
Posted on 8/3/26 at 12:16 pm to Indefatigable
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The UK just did this as well, I believe.
Yep. Let's wait to see how that works out before implementing the same craziness here
Posted on 8/3/26 at 12:19 pm to Marlboro Smooth
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Nicotine is perfectly safe even if addictive
Maybe not perfectly safe in all ways but I do wonder if anyone has ever died from pure nicotine.
Is there even a deadly level of just nicotine?
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