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re: CDC: One group of fathers is the most active in their kids lives

Posted on 5/21/26 at 10:02 am to
Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 5/21/26 at 10:02 am to
The Key Words, should be in the title

Black fathers (41%) in the home

And, do the math, 59% of black fathers in the home do not. Then adjust the numbers for the three races that have fathers somewhere other than in the home, including those MIAs, never in the home.
Posted by medium_okra
City of Central
Member since Oct 2019
291 posts
Posted on 5/21/26 at 10:05 am to
Well the Federal government is the actual daddy to 75% of black kids so maybe this is true.
Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
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Posted on 5/21/26 at 10:09 am to
Must be the same black guys on the Swiffer Wet Jet commercial worried about clean floors...

Posted by ChatGPT of LA
Member since Mar 2023
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Posted on 5/21/26 at 10:11 am to
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every day, compared with their white (60%


We are working, that's why
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
23398 posts
Posted on 5/21/26 at 10:12 am to
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Maybe they are going with the sample of ones who are actually married to the mom. Which is an extremely small sample size.

Black nuclear families have some of the highest statistical positive outcomes across any demographic.

The issue is that the relative percentage of black nuclear families is low.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 5/21/26 at 10:14 am to
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It's all semantics...

Notice how they say "who live" with their children...
Yep. Unfortunately, there is some good information to be gleaned here. But the false pretense of the headline will leave most discounting the work out-of-hand.

U.S. Census Bureau - Children living in two parent HHs
(2022–2023):
Asian - 81–85%
White - 70–74%
Hispanic - 55–61%
Black - 33–36%
Posted by Dee_oh_Dee
Member since Aug 2024
214 posts
Posted on 5/21/26 at 10:17 am to
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Why is the CDC promoting this... Weird take.



The cdc bullshite study was from 2013.

The article was from 2024.
This post was edited on 5/21/26 at 10:19 am
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
15571 posts
Posted on 5/21/26 at 10:17 am to
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Black - 33–36%

So, 70% of the 33-36%, which is actually 23-25% of all black fathers, are active in their kids lives.
Posted by NineLineBind
LA....no, the other one
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 5/21/26 at 10:18 am to
Subset of a subset.

95% of Chevy drivers who don’t speed won’t get a speeding ticket.
Posted by bluestem75
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2007
5115 posts
Posted on 5/21/26 at 10:19 am to
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most likely to have bathed, dressed, changed or helped their child with the toilet every day


Why does Dad have to do this every day? Why should Mom? Aren’t they supposed to be a team sharing duties?

How many of these homes have stay at home Moms?

What’s the statistics on mothers who won’t let their husbands near the kids during this task?
This post was edited on 5/21/26 at 10:20 am
Posted by PeleofAnalytics
Member since Jun 2021
5399 posts
Posted on 5/21/26 at 10:21 am to
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who live with their children


That would include SINGLE FATHERS. And black fathers make up a disproportionate number of single fathers in the country.

Therefore a disproportionate number of black men make up a larger portion who are, by default, FORCED to do 100% of this work as single fathers.

Sorry but you cannot use just "live with children" because that sample includes a disproportionate number of black single fathers. For a realistic comparison, you have to compare two parent households.
Posted by Archives
Member since Mar 2026
324 posts
Posted on 5/21/26 at 10:22 am to
I know several married black fathers and they are great with their kids.
If only this was the rule and not the exception
Posted by TD422
Destrehan, LA
Member since Jun 2019
905 posts
Posted on 5/21/26 at 10:24 am to
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Black nuclear families have some of the highest statistical positive outcomes across any demographic.


I can believe this statement based on the opinion that black nuclear fathers realize they have to work harder to keep their kids on the straight and narrow, otherwise the street culture is an available outcome. They're trying to counter the vast pendulum swing that could result if they didn't put some effort into raising their kids and keeping them out of that trap.

God Bless the ones that see this for what it is.
Posted by tiger94gop
GEISMAR
Member since Nov 2004
3243 posts
Posted on 5/21/26 at 10:26 am to
Because they aren't working and the Baby Momma is.
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
19570 posts
Posted on 5/21/26 at 10:40 am to


Since when?
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
7970 posts
Posted on 5/21/26 at 10:42 am to
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Because they aren't working and the Baby Momma is.

The idea that a stay at home dad is more laudable than a working dad who provides for his family is a joke.
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
21770 posts
Posted on 5/21/26 at 10:42 am to
IF (big IF) this is true, it makes the story of black Americans and their outcomes even more interesting.

The big five theoretical causes for the poor outcomes for black Americans in the current period are:

1) Absent fathers
2) Current racism / “Institutional Racism”
3) Historic racism
4) Victim mindset
5) Genetic differences

There is consistent data that shows that second generation black immigrants from the Caribbean and Africa do better on average than white Americans. These are people who are indistinguishable from the ancestors of black American slaves as they interact in schools, the community and the business world.

There is an argument against this data that points out that these immigrants were self-selected for success and industriousness due to them leaving the bad circumstances of their previous nations, and I think there is some truth to that. However, this objection doesn’t discount the data in important ways.

It might diminish the historical racism angle since these people arguably were able to overcome generational poverty before arriving here. And maybe there’s a genetic component in that these ostensibly higher achievers were possibly made of better genes. (I personally think the genetic component as passed from generation to generation is highly over stated.)

I think that the main factor remaining of the five I mentioned is the self-sabotaging of the Victim Mentality, which is mostly missing in these later immigrants who depended on hard work and no excuses to get to America.

In reality, I think the second most important factor IS indeed lack of father involvement, and not just the kind where dad shows up at Christmas and Birthdays with a truckload of presents.
This post was edited on 5/21/26 at 10:43 am
Posted by NytroBud
LaFayette
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 5/21/26 at 10:43 am to
Think it may be because they dont have a job
Posted by LittleJerrySeinfield
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Posted on 5/21/26 at 10:54 am to
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46208 posts
Posted on 5/21/26 at 10:56 am to
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That would include SINGLE FATHERS. And black fathers make up a disproportionate number of single fathers in the country.



Do you have any links to stats on this? This is in no way snark or a swipe at you. I'm genuinely interested in this, as it's something that I don't see mentioned very much.
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