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re: CBS: U.S. estimates Russian losses to be 5,000-6,000 KIA and 15,000-18,000 WIA in Ukraine
Posted on 3/9/22 at 8:31 pm to RollingwiththeTide
Posted on 3/9/22 at 8:31 pm to RollingwiththeTide
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The Russians are notorious for sending soldiers into meat grinders.
"the 1940's called and they want their Russian Military doctrine back."
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Posted on 3/9/22 at 8:36 pm to Lima Whiskey
The Russian Army has a historical record of fighting that way. We are not talking about stuff that happened in WW2 either. Since Putin has been in charge this is the 3 rd place I can think of off the top of my head. This is how the Russians fight. Go look it up.
Posted on 3/9/22 at 8:36 pm to RollTide1987
Yeah that is complete bs.
Posted on 3/9/22 at 8:42 pm to Mr. Hangover
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How the frick would the US know??
They check in here ?
This post was edited on 3/9/22 at 8:51 pm
Posted on 3/9/22 at 8:45 pm to Mr. Hangover
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How the frick would the US know??
The same way we knew Russia's every move in this invasion
Posted on 3/9/22 at 8:50 pm to Decatur
Now we know Rexcatur?
This post was edited on 3/9/22 at 8:51 pm
Posted on 3/9/22 at 8:51 pm to RollTide1987
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Let us hope the figures are accurate. I have no idea why so many people seem to be pulling for the Russians to succeed in this campaign.
Wanting to deal in facts and truth /= "pulling for Putin or Russia"
The Nancy types on this board are hilarious.
There are so many geopolitical layers to this that anyone with an interest in stopping the "human suffering" of war should look inward first and foremost. The U.S. has been in kinetic military operations around the globe for the better part of its existence. Not even going into the clandestine and black ops doctrine.
Many of those operations were noble, some were clearly not after the dust settled.
Right and wrong are subjective when looking at the realities of war and its impact of the innocent.
This post was edited on 3/9/22 at 8:52 pm
Posted on 3/9/22 at 8:55 pm to RollTide1987
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CBS: U.S. estimates Russian losses to be 5,000-6,000 KIA and 15,000-18,000 WIA in Ukraine
Surely this is the weekly Covid death rate in Russia and Ukraine.
The US media is the most unreliable news in the entire world. Our news is a joke. Take everything they say with a grain of salt and know that it is probably false. Just watch it for entertainment and nothing more.
Posted on 3/9/22 at 8:58 pm to RollTide1987
Is the CDC counting these deaths?
Posted on 3/9/22 at 9:00 pm to RollTide1987
I thought Russia said there were like 500 KIA.
Posted on 3/9/22 at 9:14 pm to RollTide1987
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Okay. And...?
…and I imagine that the U.S. funding bioweapons labs in the Ukraine violates — at the very least — the spirit of the 1994 Budapest Memorandum.
The 1994 agreement also was not limited to issues of territorial sovereignty alone but also included a provision that the West would “refrain from economic coercion” in the Ukraine.
I likewise imagine Hunter’s wHoRE and cRacK stipend at Burisma violated those provisions.
This post was edited on 3/9/22 at 9:49 pm
Posted on 3/9/22 at 9:22 pm to RollTide1987
Posted on 3/9/22 at 9:36 pm to RollTide1987
Yes yes. According to the propaganda... Ukraine is a badass..such a badass that zelensky is desperately begging for help on a daily basis.
Posted on 3/9/22 at 9:38 pm to Pettifogger
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Two posts in is probably a record, you must be drunk.
Im.at the office crushing but obvioualy drunk
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I'm here, what are you pulling on my shirt about?
Im asked a simple question. Are you going to contain your melt and the answer is obviously no
Posted on 3/9/22 at 9:41 pm to Plx1776
If it was an even fight then Ukraine could hold out for a super long time. It’s not a even fight though. Russia can launch missiles from miles away and they have an Air Force. Throw in the fact that the Russians really could care less about how many civilians they kill and that just spells eventual doom for the Ukrainian Army.
Posted on 3/9/22 at 9:44 pm to Mr. Hangover
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How the frick would the US know??
Us intelligence has nailed this thing from the beginning.
Posted on 3/9/22 at 9:44 pm to RollTide1987
50,000 people died within two hours of holding the Volga river during Stalingrad
These are rookie numbers
These are rookie numbers
Posted on 3/9/22 at 9:44 pm to RollTide1987
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Let us hope the figures are accurate. I have no idea why so many people seem to be pulling for the Russians to succeed in this campaign. I don't believe in Russiagate. I don't believe Putin helped Trump win the White House in 2016 and I don't believe he worked to help him get re-elected in 2020. What I do believe, however, is that Russia is a bad actor and has grand designs for eastern Europe that may end up negatively effecting our relations with friendly and loyal allies like Poland. I don't hate the current occupant in the White House enough that I root for an entire European nation to lose its sovereignty just to make the guy look foolish.
I haven’t seen anyone pulling for the Russians to succeed. What I HAVE SEEN are discussions about the need for an honest assessment of the geopolitical series of events that led to this invasion.
Pointing out that the U.S. is partially(a lot) to blame for this invasion doesn’t mean people are “pulling for the Russians to succeed”.
The U.S. and NATO have been steadily trying to pull Ukraine out of the Soviet orbit and incorporate it into the West. Putin has for decades made it crystal clear he would never allow that. In 2008 he stated that Georgia and Ukraine joining NATO would be considered a direct threat.
If you look at the prior electoral maps, roughly 55% of Ukraine(western) is generally pro-West and 45%(eastern) is generally pro-Russia. This is a country divided(and literally at war with each other in areas). It would be folly to join NATO.
But the US(and Europe) just couldn’t stay out of it. Putin bears primary blame because he is the one who invaded, but the reason he did so is a direct result of the United States/Europe’s meddling (looking at you Obama/Biden - talk about the chickens coming home to roost!)
Did anyone truly believe that Putin would sit by and allow Ukraine to join NATO?
I just can’t wrap my head around these theories about a grand design on Eastern Europe? You mean those Eastern European *NATO* countries? You really think Putin has designs on countries who, if he were to attack, would lead to his swift defeat and possibly nuclear Armageddon? He must know that his military is NO match for the West, and he is - despite what CNN and the other idiots blither on about - a rational actor.
No, his game plan all along here has been to wreck Ukraine and seize the eastern pro-Russian territory’s of Ukraine as a last resort if/when diplomacy failed.
Posted on 3/9/22 at 9:52 pm to RollTide1987
CBS is the network that employed Dan Rather.
Posted on 3/9/22 at 9:55 pm to BlackPawnMartyr
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What do they estimate the Ukrainian KIA to be???
zero
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