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re: CBS: U.S. estimates Russian losses to be 5,000-6,000 KIA and 15,000-18,000 WIA in Ukraine
Posted on 3/9/22 at 8:04 pm to RollTide1987
Posted on 3/9/22 at 8:04 pm to RollTide1987
Propaganda.
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Posted on 3/9/22 at 8:06 pm to Mr. Hangover
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How the frick would the US know??
You serious, Clark?
Posted on 3/9/22 at 8:07 pm to Chenny_Kesney
Still better than 25,000 Ukrainian soldiers who have been killed by the Russian freedom fighters.
Posted on 3/9/22 at 8:09 pm to BlackPawnMartyr
I hate it all. Propaganda from both sides. Meanwhile, average people are going to get screwed world wide over games the elites play.
Posted on 3/9/22 at 8:10 pm to RollTide1987
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Not that long actually. Back during the Gulf War in 1991, we spent 42 consecutive days and nights softening up Iraqi air and ground defenses before ground forces began entering Iraq/Kuwait.
In 2003, we invaded on the same day hostilities began (March 20).
This is not true. I was there.
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Well, they had to give up their nuclear arsenal in 1994, lost the Crimean Peninsula to a Russian invasion in 2014, and had been dealing with a Russian-backed insurgency in the eastern provinces since about 2015 or so.
Since the first Gulf War sanctions and embargoes gutted the Iraqi army's and air forces capabilities to the point of being not much more than a minor speed bump. Again, I was there.
Ukraine has received much support from Western nations militarily (equipment and arms) and financially.
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You're right. Our military commanders showed a certain degree of competence when they planned out the invasion of Iraq in 2003. If Operation Iraqi Freedom was Leonardo Da Vinci's "The Last Supper," this Russian incursion into Ukraine is more akin to a finger painting by comparison.
I agree our Military is far superior. There isn't a modern force that is in terms of overall capabilities and infrastructure. Kind of defeats the point you are trying to make, no?
Posted on 3/9/22 at 8:10 pm to RollTide1987
We lost around 4,500 in Iraq maybe a few more. We lost 2,400 or 2,500 in 20 years of war in Afghanistan. So if this report is true in 2 weeks of war the Russians have lost almost as many soldiers as we have in 2 wars. They have lost double the amount of soldiers as we did in Afghanistan and we fought there 20 years. Like I said Russia has fought 2 weeks and has not really sent soldiers into the major cities yet in an Urban combat setting. The death toll will be staggering on both sides if this war does not end soon. The civilian population will take the brunt of it though.
Posted on 3/9/22 at 8:11 pm to RollTide1987
We had assloads of footage of our Middle East campaigns. Where’s the footage here?
Posted on 3/9/22 at 8:13 pm to willeaux
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We had assloads of footage of our Middle East campaigns. Where’s the footage here?
Go set a Twitter alert to any Ukranian city and you'll get a new video of shelling, etc. every 3 minutes
There's a shite ton of footage
Posted on 3/9/22 at 8:13 pm to Pettifogger
Can you control your melt please
Posted on 3/9/22 at 8:14 pm to RollTide1987
Dominion in Ukraine counting bodies
Posted on 3/9/22 at 8:15 pm to SDVTiger
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Can you control your melt please
Haha someone must be feeling uncharacteristically bold tonight
Posted on 3/9/22 at 8:16 pm to RollTide1987
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CBS: U.S. estimates Russian losses to be 5,000-6,000 KIA and 15,000-18,000 WIA
That's just in the first two weeks of the conflict. For context, in the three weeks it took us to take Baghdad in 2003, we lost 139 killed and 551 wounded.
The difference in the current numbers is that Russians don't blink at those numbers, while Americans do.
Posted on 3/9/22 at 8:21 pm to Stealth Matrix
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The difference in the current numbers is that Russians don't blink at those numbers, while Americans do.
Estimated Russian Military strength at time of invasion:
200,000
Those casualty numbers ( 24000) suggest a .12 % total force causality rate in three days.
That number changes when you factor in combat arms/support ratios which would send that number much higher.
I just don't believe that for a second.
I am not a "Putin Fan" nor do I want Russia to succeed but that is pure western propaganda.
Posted on 3/9/22 at 8:24 pm to Pettifogger
So is that a yes or no to containing it?
Posted on 3/9/22 at 8:24 pm to kilo
The Russians are notorious for sending soldiers into meat grinders. They have always done that just like they always shell or bomb civilians.
Posted on 3/9/22 at 8:26 pm to SDVTiger
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So is that a yes or no to containing it?
Two posts in is probably a record, you must be drunk. I'm here, what are you pulling on my shirt about?
Posted on 3/9/22 at 8:26 pm to RollingwiththeTide
Enemy At The Gates wasn’t fully historically accurate but the part about conscripts being rolled out of box cars and told to advance lest they be shot by their own officers was true IIRC.
Posted on 3/9/22 at 8:28 pm to RollTide1987
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Well, they had to give up their nuclear arsenal in 1994, lost the Crimean Peninsula to a Russian invasion in 2014, and had been dealing with a Russian-backed insurgency in the eastern provinces since about 2015 or so.
The Ukrainian Army is much more effective today, because of the civil war, and the low grade fighting that has continued over the last seven years.
Posted on 3/9/22 at 8:30 pm to teke184
I think if I remember right the part about having more men than rifles was true too. They would give one guy a rifle and both ammunition and sent them out in pairs. When the guy with the rifle got killed the other guy picked it up. The last job in the world anyone should want is to be an infantryman in the Russian Army.
Posted on 3/9/22 at 8:31 pm to RollingwiththeTide
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They have always done that just like they always shell or bomb civilians.
Anyone selling you a sob story wants something from you.
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