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re: California votes AGAINST making the human trafficking of a minor a serious felony...

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Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65865 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 4:02 pm to
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Trafficking the kid to pick avocados? No, not at all. Felonly? Yes. Capital offense? You are out of your mind.



Wow. What an absolutely horrendous take.
Posted by captainFid
Never apologize to barbarism
Member since Dec 2014
10591 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 4:03 pm to
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Hank will be along shortly to explain why this was the correct decision.


After returning from the enema where he obtained said opinion.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 4:03 pm to
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PedoHank thinks forcing kids to pick tomatoes is the same as being sold into sex slavery.
No, Boure, I do not. The fact that they are quite different is the heart of my last three posts.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 4:05 pm to
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quote:

Trafficking the kid to pick avocados? No, not at all. Felonly? Yes. Capital offense? You are out of your mind.
Wow. What an absolutely horrendous take.
Let's be clear.

Do you think that forcing a kid to pick vegetables should be treated exactly the same as trafficking a kid for murder or sexual exploitation?

Because I do not apologize in the slightest for thinking that the two offenses are of an entirely different quantum.
This post was edited on 7/11/23 at 4:08 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139010 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 4:07 pm to
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California votes AGAINST making the human trafficking of a minor a serious felony...
If you are convicted of violating human trafficking laws under California Penal Code 236.1 PC, the penalties will depend on the subsection you were convicted of, but it was a felony. LINK

It looks to me like Assembly Bill 2167 is an Amendment to current law requiring courts to consider alternatives to incarceration in general, including without limitation, collaborative justice court programs, diversion, restorative justice, and probation. LINK

The GOP attempted to amend the amendment, basically restoring existing law for trafficking minors
Posted by The_Boyg
East of the Sun--west of the Moon
Member since Jul 2023
72 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 4:08 pm to
But... why? Is this supported by most Californians?

Will this be a referendum item on November's ballots, and subject to a popular vote?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 4:09 pm to
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I did not say that I agreed with that sentiment. I said that one of the legislators on that committee could easily have reached that conclusion.


Which is retarded and why you need to be blasted

Thats not a legislator idea, Its yours that you are projecting

You made up something which reflected your view
This post was edited on 7/11/23 at 4:11 pm
Posted by YumYum Sauce
Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
9583 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 4:09 pm to
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rent … free …


This doesnt mean what you think it means.


This board gets tired of you taking whatever the side is of bad people
Posted by YumYum Sauce
Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
9583 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 4:11 pm to
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o you think that forcing a kid to pick vegetables should be treated exactly the same as trafficking a kid for murder or sexual exploitation?



Forcing children to hard labor or sex against their will for the benefit of your fellow voting base is pretty much one and the same
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 4:11 pm to
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Which is retarded and why you need t be basted

Thats not a legislator idea Its yours that you are projecting

Yu made up something which reflected your view
No, Roger, I was speculating as to why a legislative committee might have voted the way that it voted.

I don't "know" why they voted a given way, nor do you or any other poster on this forum. The difference is that you and your cohorts THINK you know, whereas I admit that I do not.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15857 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 4:14 pm to
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Roger, how many times do you want to go back over this issue? You are either entirely dishonest or simply too stupid to understand my position. I see no reason to argue with you


You don't want to argue with him because you know he is right and as far as your position it changes everytime you're called out for your lies.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 4:14 pm to
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Forcing children to hard labor or sex against their will ... is pretty much one and the same
I disagree.
I do not think that forced manual labor (while bad) is nearly as serious as sexual abuse or murder

That is the sort of question that legislatures are designed to answer. In this case, one subcommittee of one chamber of the California legislature answered that question differently than you would have done so.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139010 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 4:14 pm to
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Do you think that forcing a kid to pick vegetables should be treated exactly the same as trafficking a kid for murder or sexual exploitation?
One antebellum TX slave owner to another, "I only whip my slaves if they don't pick enough cotton in the steaming summer sun. I'd never have sex with one. That'd be rape. I do not apologize in the slightest for thinking that the two offenses are of an entirely different quantum."
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 4:15 pm to
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might have


To normies, its called projecting, exactly what I said
Posted by Bourre
Da Parish
Member since Nov 2012
23921 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 4:19 pm to
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The fact that they are quite different is the heart of my last three posts.


So in PedoHank’s deranged mind, child slavery and trafficking is cool as long as they are being forced to pick vegetables instead of being forced to have sex
Posted by dukkbill
Member since Aug 2012
1050 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 4:20 pm to
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n this case, assume a 2-time felon who is then convicted of trafficking a kid to pick tomatoes in the Central Valley. This bill would have dictated treatment the same as if that their conviction had been for a capital felony.


There is no misunderstanding at all. Yes, The bill would have created the same sentence enhancement as someone that committed a capital felony is correct. But the enhancement is also applied to the same person that in the same situation committed a weapons offense

The comparison is for an offense of trafficking to one that is a serious or violent offense of which capital offenses are but a small subset of violent offenses and even smaller subset of serious offenses

Your improper limiting the comparison to capital offenses is musdirective. There is nothing in any post suggesting that someone doesn’t understand recidivism laws

As for not understanding and not reading. sb14 adds “the human trafficking of a minor in violation of subdivision c of section 236.1”

Section 236.1c reads “ a person who causes, induces or attempts to cause, induce, or persuade a person who is a minor at the time of commission of the offense to engage in a commercial sex act, with the intent to violate…is guilty of human trafficking…”

Now I know you like to post about kink, and that has its own vocabulary, but I don’t think “picking tomatoes” fits that definition. If it does, it definitely sounds like good policy

Posted by Texas Weazel
Louisiana is a shithole
Member since Oct 2016
8946 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 4:20 pm to
Democrats are a danger to children of all ages.
Posted by dukkbill
Member since Aug 2012
1050 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 4:24 pm to
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rafficking the kid to pick avocados? No, not at all. Felonly? Yes. Capital offense? You are out of your mind.



Unless “advocados” are some of your draggy sex acts, the bill neither makes trafficking a “capital offense” nor does it add farming to the three strikes law
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139010 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 4:25 pm to
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This bill would have dictated treatment the same as if that their conviction had been for a capital felony.
It would render the defendant eligible for the Death Penalty?
Posted by KAGTASTIC
Member since Feb 2022
7989 posts
Posted on 7/11/23 at 4:28 pm to
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This type of thing is guaranteed to destroy the country

I was thinking about the mental destruction of girls that have been trafficked all the up from Venezuela. Tweens/teens with easily high double digit/hundred sexual partners before they get to become legal age here. And then they will be expected to become positive members of the society once they have their fatherless anchor baby as teens.

Freaking really is amazingly sad. Imagine if people 20 years ago were told that states and Americans would advocate or find ways to justify it all. Sad diabolical future we are facing.
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