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re: California votes AGAINST making the human trafficking of a minor a serious felony...
Posted on 7/11/23 at 4:02 pm to AggieHank86
Posted on 7/11/23 at 4:02 pm to AggieHank86
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Trafficking the kid to pick avocados? No, not at all. Felonly? Yes. Capital offense? You are out of your mind.
Wow. What an absolutely horrendous take.
Posted on 7/11/23 at 4:03 pm to Rebel
quote:
Hank will be along shortly to explain why this was the correct decision.
After returning from the enema where he obtained said opinion.
Posted on 7/11/23 at 4:03 pm to Bourre
quote:No, Boure, I do not. The fact that they are quite different is the heart of my last three posts.
PedoHank thinks forcing kids to pick tomatoes is the same as being sold into sex slavery.
Posted on 7/11/23 at 4:05 pm to imjustafatkid
quote:Let's be clear.quote:Wow. What an absolutely horrendous take.
Trafficking the kid to pick avocados? No, not at all. Felonly? Yes. Capital offense? You are out of your mind.
Do you think that forcing a kid to pick vegetables should be treated exactly the same as trafficking a kid for murder or sexual exploitation?
Because I do not apologize in the slightest for thinking that the two offenses are of an entirely different quantum.
This post was edited on 7/11/23 at 4:08 pm
Posted on 7/11/23 at 4:07 pm to RollTide1987
quote:If you are convicted of violating human trafficking laws under California Penal Code 236.1 PC, the penalties will depend on the subsection you were convicted of, but it was a felony. LINK
California votes AGAINST making the human trafficking of a minor a serious felony...
It looks to me like Assembly Bill 2167 is an Amendment to current law requiring courts to consider alternatives to incarceration in general, including without limitation, collaborative justice court programs, diversion, restorative justice, and probation. LINK
The GOP attempted to amend the amendment, basically restoring existing law for trafficking minors
Posted on 7/11/23 at 4:08 pm to RollTide1987
But... why? Is this supported by most Californians?
Will this be a referendum item on November's ballots, and subject to a popular vote?
Will this be a referendum item on November's ballots, and subject to a popular vote?
Posted on 7/11/23 at 4:09 pm to AggieHank86
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I did not say that I agreed with that sentiment. I said that one of the legislators on that committee could easily have reached that conclusion.
Which is retarded and why you need to be blasted
Thats not a legislator idea, Its yours that you are projecting
You made up something which reflected your view
This post was edited on 7/11/23 at 4:11 pm
Posted on 7/11/23 at 4:09 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
rent … free …
This doesnt mean what you think it means.
This board gets tired of you taking whatever the side is of bad people
Posted on 7/11/23 at 4:11 pm to AggieHank86
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o you think that forcing a kid to pick vegetables should be treated exactly the same as trafficking a kid for murder or sexual exploitation?
Forcing children to hard labor or sex against their will for the benefit of your fellow voting base is pretty much one and the same
Posted on 7/11/23 at 4:11 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:No, Roger, I was speculating as to why a legislative committee might have voted the way that it voted.
Which is retarded and why you need t be basted
Thats not a legislator idea Its yours that you are projecting
Yu made up something which reflected your view
I don't "know" why they voted a given way, nor do you or any other poster on this forum. The difference is that you and your cohorts THINK you know, whereas I admit that I do not.
Posted on 7/11/23 at 4:14 pm to AggieHank86
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Roger, how many times do you want to go back over this issue? You are either entirely dishonest or simply too stupid to understand my position. I see no reason to argue with you
You don't want to argue with him because you know he is right and as far as your position it changes everytime you're called out for your lies.
Posted on 7/11/23 at 4:14 pm to YumYum Sauce
quote:I disagree.
Forcing children to hard labor or sex against their will ... is pretty much one and the same
I do not think that forced manual labor (while bad) is nearly as serious as sexual abuse or murder
That is the sort of question that legislatures are designed to answer. In this case, one subcommittee of one chamber of the California legislature answered that question differently than you would have done so.
Posted on 7/11/23 at 4:14 pm to AggieHank86
quote:One antebellum TX slave owner to another, "I only whip my slaves if they don't pick enough cotton in the steaming summer sun. I'd never have sex with one. That'd be rape. I do not apologize in the slightest for thinking that the two offenses are of an entirely different quantum."
Do you think that forcing a kid to pick vegetables should be treated exactly the same as trafficking a kid for murder or sexual exploitation?
Posted on 7/11/23 at 4:15 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
might have
To normies, its called projecting, exactly what I said
Posted on 7/11/23 at 4:19 pm to AggieHank86
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The fact that they are quite different is the heart of my last three posts.
So in PedoHank’s deranged mind, child slavery and trafficking is cool as long as they are being forced to pick vegetables instead of being forced to have sex
Posted on 7/11/23 at 4:20 pm to AggieHank86
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n this case, assume a 2-time felon who is then convicted of trafficking a kid to pick tomatoes in the Central Valley. This bill would have dictated treatment the same as if that their conviction had been for a capital felony.
There is no misunderstanding at all. Yes, The bill would have created the same sentence enhancement as someone that committed a capital felony is correct. But the enhancement is also applied to the same person that in the same situation committed a weapons offense
The comparison is for an offense of trafficking to one that is a serious or violent offense of which capital offenses are but a small subset of violent offenses and even smaller subset of serious offenses
Your improper limiting the comparison to capital offenses is musdirective. There is nothing in any post suggesting that someone doesn’t understand recidivism laws
As for not understanding and not reading. sb14 adds “the human trafficking of a minor in violation of subdivision c of section 236.1”
Section 236.1c reads “ a person who causes, induces or attempts to cause, induce, or persuade a person who is a minor at the time of commission of the offense to engage in a commercial sex act, with the intent to violate…is guilty of human trafficking…”
Now I know you like to post about kink, and that has its own vocabulary, but I don’t think “picking tomatoes” fits that definition. If it does, it definitely sounds like good policy
Posted on 7/11/23 at 4:20 pm to RollTide1987
Democrats are a danger to children of all ages.
Posted on 7/11/23 at 4:24 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
rafficking the kid to pick avocados? No, not at all. Felonly? Yes. Capital offense? You are out of your mind.
Unless “advocados” are some of your draggy sex acts, the bill neither makes trafficking a “capital offense” nor does it add farming to the three strikes law
Posted on 7/11/23 at 4:25 pm to AggieHank86
quote:It would render the defendant eligible for the Death Penalty?
This bill would have dictated treatment the same as if that their conviction had been for a capital felony.
Posted on 7/11/23 at 4:28 pm to dcbl
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This type of thing is guaranteed to destroy the country
I was thinking about the mental destruction of girls that have been trafficked all the up from Venezuela. Tweens/teens with easily high double digit/hundred sexual partners before they get to become legal age here. And then they will be expected to become positive members of the society once they have their fatherless anchor baby as teens.
Freaking really is amazingly sad. Imagine if people 20 years ago were told that states and Americans would advocate or find ways to justify it all. Sad diabolical future we are facing.
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