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CA to become first state to ban natural gas heaters and furnaces

Posted on 9/23/22 at 1:07 pm
Posted by Quidam65
Q Continuum
Member since Jun 2010
19309 posts
Posted on 9/23/22 at 1:07 pm
Apparently they have a new tactic: for the elites claim this will reverse "climate change" and for the poor folks claim this will help "low income and disadvantaged" people.

CA to ban natural gas heaters and furnaces
Posted by ScottFowler
NE Ohio
Member since Sep 2012
4148 posts
Posted on 9/23/22 at 1:08 pm to
Insane...
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
12219 posts
Posted on 9/23/22 at 1:11 pm to
The electricity produced, in Columbia SC, is made by turbines at Lake Murray. Guess what fuel source the turbine uses... natural gas.
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30036 posts
Posted on 9/23/22 at 1:12 pm to
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CA to become first state to ban natural gas heaters and furnaces


and yet they still have a moratorium preventing any and all new power plants from being built.

they cant charge the few electric cars they have now, and have rolling blackouts with zero demand from electric cars to even add to the demand, yet pass laws saying the only viable means of getting around in vehicles cant be used
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 9/23/22 at 1:13 pm to
Posted by NineLineBind
LA....no, the other one
Member since May 2020
6916 posts
Posted on 9/23/22 at 1:15 pm to
Would it be such a bad thing for millions of groomers to take cold showers?
Posted by Figgy
CenCal
Member since May 2020
7203 posts
Posted on 9/23/22 at 1:17 pm to
All is well. We’re installing solar panels above our canals. Nothing to see, move along..
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
67964 posts
Posted on 9/23/22 at 1:23 pm to

good, let them freeze
Posted by bopper50
Sugarland Texas
Member since Mar 2009
9142 posts
Posted on 9/23/22 at 1:32 pm to
Regular folks need to man up and storm the California and remove that arse.

Take him on a one way boat ride.
Posted by ksayetiger
Centenary Gents
Member since Jul 2007
68314 posts
Posted on 9/23/22 at 1:54 pm to
United States emissions went down from 2005 -2020.

Why?

Natural gas usage skyrocketed.


This proves the lack of science and it is about control
Posted by NoHoTiger
So many to kill, so little time
Member since Nov 2006
45738 posts
Posted on 9/23/22 at 1:57 pm to
They have already banned gas stoves and wood-burning fireplaces in new construction. So, this doesn’t surprise me in the least.

I’m sure before long we’ll be down to harvesting sunlight for heat and just sucking it up when we’re hot. Unless, of course, you’re an elite. Which I’m not.

Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
24958 posts
Posted on 9/23/22 at 2:00 pm to
Electric heat strips suck an astronomical amount of electricity. The least efficient use of energy is using electric to heat a home
Posted by ronniep1
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2016
394 posts
Posted on 9/23/22 at 2:11 pm to
No matter how many universes a person does or doesn't believe in, in which one is this an intelligent decisioin?

It was just 2 - 3 weeks ago that California had rolling blackouts because their power grid was on the verge of failing. Even with the blackouts, as I recall, businesses and homeowners were urged to set their thermostats to 78 degrees or higher to reduce demand on the grid. Next is the plan to halt the sale of gas/diesel burning vehicles by (?)2035. And now, by 2030, sales of natural gas space heaters, furnaces, and water heaters will be forbidden.

Where are the plans for new power plants that will be needed to provide this additional power? How will said power plants be fueled? Coal? Natural Gas? (Gasp!)Nuclear?

Whatever the correct numbers may be, how does California enact policies that will require "X" Gigawatts per day, all while knowing the state can only produce "Y" Gigawatts?
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162231 posts
Posted on 9/23/22 at 2:18 pm to
The dumb thing (or one of the many dumb things) about this is that the electric ones are going to be primarily fueled by natural gas anyway.

quote:

The decision, which was passed unanimously, aims to phase out sales of the space heater and water heater appliances by 2030.

Stupid. But at least they aren't going so far as to remove the existing gas units from homes and businesses. That would be extremely stupid.


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Residential and commercial buildings in California account for approximately five percent of the state’s total nitrogen oxide emissions due to natural gas combustion, according to the originally proposed plan, released in August 2022.


i.e. this will have virtually no positive impact whatsoever

Gas units will remain in existing homes/businesses and in any new homes/businesses built up until 2030

This is a virtue signal as much as it is anything else
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
26642 posts
Posted on 9/23/22 at 2:30 pm to
These people are LITERALLY trying to go back to the stone ages.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
27158 posts
Posted on 9/23/22 at 2:33 pm to
What about burn barrels for the homeless?
Posted by LsuNav
Sacramento
Member since Mar 2008
1389 posts
Posted on 9/23/22 at 2:36 pm to
Nothing surprises me here. You can explain to people all day that the electricity will have to come from fossil fuels or hydro but the believe that it is wind and solar that will handle the new demand. And it has nothing to do with intelligence. They are simply blind to truth that falls outside their belief system.
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6--Brazos River Backwater
Member since Sep 2015
26183 posts
Posted on 9/23/22 at 2:44 pm to
They should have been banned years and years ago. I nearly blew up our home at the age of 6 by turning on a gas heater in the bathroom. Back then they didn't automatically light up.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134865 posts
Posted on 9/23/22 at 2:44 pm to
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They should have been banned years and years ago. I nearly blew up our home at the age of 6 by turning on a gas heater in the bathroom. Back then they didn't automatically light up.

So they should be banned because you were a retarded 6 year old?

Makes sense
Posted by Rex Feral
Athens
Member since Jan 2014
11351 posts
Posted on 9/23/22 at 2:58 pm to
Maybe the can start burning all the shite they collect from homeless camps for energy.
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