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re: Bragg Hid Nearly 600 Pages of Exculpatory Evidence from NY Grand Jury in Trump Case
Posted on 3/22/23 at 9:00 am to John McClane
Posted on 3/22/23 at 9:00 am to John McClane
Prosecutors have absolute immunity when acting as a prosecutor so good luck with your civil claim.
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Posted on 3/22/23 at 9:03 am to John McClane
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This behavior opens them up to a malicious prosecution claim.
Actually using the grand jury likely protects them from this. He's bringing the evidence to the GJ and they are making the decision.
Posted on 3/22/23 at 9:04 am to MilwaukeeKosherDills
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As far as the 600 pages go they are obviously already known to the defense. So it's all legal. If there is other evidence in possession of the prosecutors that has not been disclosed, that's a problem.
I don't think there is any right to discovery/disclosure in NY during the GJ process. I'm willing to see citations from NY law disputing my assertions.
Posted on 3/22/23 at 9:07 am to GumboPot
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They really don't care about a conviction. A conviction would be a cherry on top. They care about the process. Fingerprint. Mug shot. Arraignment. Gag order. Media circus. Right to a speedy trial nixed by judicial decisions and process. Etc., etc.
The prosecutor only has to show a Grand Jury what he wants them to see. If this were to go to trial (it's not supposed to) and Bragg had to comply with Brady requirements, his case would be thrown out and he knows it.
Posted on 3/22/23 at 9:08 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
Your end justifies their means.
Posted on 3/22/23 at 9:20 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
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And it now is being reported that New York District Attorney Alvin Bragg was HIDING exculpatory evidence from the Grand Jury!
You don't know what a grand jury is I guess. The prosecutor gets to present and not present whatever evidence they want and there is no defense present. Every grand jury ever in existence has the prosecutor hiding exculpatory evidence.
Posted on 3/22/23 at 9:22 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
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You know, hiding from grand juries exculpatory information is reprehensible and unconscionable.
Is it illegal?
Posted on 3/22/23 at 9:23 am to Fun Bunch
Grand jury indictments are a one sided pony show. A political tool. There aren’t about the balance of all the evidence.
Posted on 3/22/23 at 9:29 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
I thought disclosing exculpatory evidence only applies to the defense and not to a grand jury.
Posted on 3/22/23 at 9:33 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
It's called "New Law".
I've talked about this before.
I've talked about this before.
Posted on 3/22/23 at 9:34 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
Bragg is truly a piece of shite... Like most big city DAs
Posted on 3/22/23 at 9:35 am to Fun Bunch
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Its a Grand Jury. They can do this. Its hard for a prosecutor to NOT get an indictment
Yes, thank you.
I understand grand juries. I was a prosecutor.
My point was more to the perversion of systems of government/justice for political persecution/purpose and how we have seen this use before.
Posted on 3/22/23 at 9:42 am to TigernMS12
In most states, prosecutors can't present half-truths to grand juries. If prosecutors have strong, credible evidence that points to innocence, they must divulge it. Even if the prosecution ignores the duty to offer evidence of innocence its difficult to prove since the grand jury proceedings are "secret". He's likely screwed on this exculpatory evidence being withheld until trial if it gets to that level.
Posted on 3/22/23 at 9:57 am to SlowFlowPro
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how our criminal justice system gets indictments,
Is that the role of our justice system, to "get indictments?"
Posted on 3/22/23 at 10:14 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:That's my understanding as well, but I am not a lawyer so I'll be happy to be corrected.
I don't think there is any right to discovery/disclosure in NY during the GJ process. I'm willing to see citations from NY law disputing my assertions.
Posted on 3/22/23 at 10:24 am to LuckyTiger
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I understand grand juries. I was a prosecutor.
So what if the prosecution has witnesses, like Daniels and Cohen in this case, who have previously offered sworn testimony that contradicts what they're swearing to today? Can the prosecutor have them testify with no acknowledgement that one of the contradictory statements has to be a lie?
This post was edited on 3/22/23 at 10:28 am
Posted on 3/22/23 at 10:27 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
Unfortunately a prosecutor can sculpt the evidence to help him get an indictment. You just hope that the prosecution is acting judicially and morally using the process.
However also unfortunately, we know many do not and it’s quite clear and obvious Bragg is abusing his position and this GJ process to carry out political prosecution.
People are finding out just how much power DA’s and AG’s have over the crime rates and who is being prosecuted with so many Soros backed and like minded prosecutors in office.
However also unfortunately, we know many do not and it’s quite clear and obvious Bragg is abusing his position and this GJ process to carry out political prosecution.
People are finding out just how much power DA’s and AG’s have over the crime rates and who is being prosecuted with so many Soros backed and like minded prosecutors in office.
Posted on 3/22/23 at 10:33 am to LuckyTiger
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Soviet style show trials have long been a practice by the left.
Everything about the Left has been based on Soviet political process since the days of Woodrow Wilson. They're just getting it kicked into high gear these past few years as they sought to smear DJT with falsified documents and unfounded accusations, and as they imprison an unknown number of people whom they claim are to be tried for sedition without the "speedy trial". I imagine they are currently building a gulag for parents who are not pleased with school boards as well.
Posted on 3/22/23 at 10:38 am to Beardlington
Correct. Our reaction is the action. This is the the same tactic they are using with the groomer clown drag shows.
Posted on 3/22/23 at 10:47 am to SlowFlowPro
SlowBloPro, everyone.
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