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re: Bill requiring Louisiana public schools to display the Ten Commandments passes House

Posted on 4/11/24 at 1:02 pm to
Posted by Thecoz
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Posted on 4/11/24 at 1:02 pm to
Oh no… no more Dunkin doughnuts with Sunday coffee
Posted by BayouBlitz
Member since Aug 2007
15843 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 1:03 pm to
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I have not ever looked at the Ten Commandments and felt I must be of a particular religious sect.


Well, you're an idiot. So there's that.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37140 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 1:22 pm to
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Once it’s out the way, then I’ll be time to spend the next three years doing something REAL, like budget reform, tax reform, making a real attempt to address legacy lawsuits within the O&G industry, government structure and funding reform…things that Landry didn’t seem too interested in when campaigning, but needs to be done.


You think they are actually going to do that?

My guess is next year brings back Jindal-esque budget tricks due to the expiration of the sales tax increase and the lack of interest in cutting spending.

The two years after that? Maybe there will be more social conservative issues pop up.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37140 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 1:25 pm to
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Republicans are generally useless, so it's nice to see them fight back even if they are a bit overzealous. I'm not going to get upset, because now is not the time for small changes. We need immediate, strong reactions to the democrats before the country is completely lost. It's too late for timidity.


Exactly what changes do you think will occur, how will we able to beat the Dems back, because the 10 commandments are hanging up in a school?

This is the very definition of meaningless.

Meanwhile, we have some other issues we can use to beat back the left, that actually will make a difference.

Tax cuts.
Reform and shrink government.
Restructure higher ed
Reform insurance
etc
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 4/11/24 at 1:27 pm to
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t the very least, we need to show the democrats we are willing to fight as much as they are. It can also be used in a negotiation. Start out with an extreme offer so you have more negotiating room to get what you want in a compromise.


This isnt a partisan issue. Liberals and conservatives both recognize that this bill is shitty.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
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Posted on 4/11/24 at 1:35 pm to
Do the students not know that things like stealing, killing and lying is wrong?
Posted by thejuiceisloose
UNO Fan
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 4/11/24 at 1:46 pm to
A small nugget that hasn't been mentioned yet is that the author of the bill said all of our laws are based on the ten commandments, I have yet to find the law that does not allow a man to covet another man's wife
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 4/11/24 at 1:47 pm to
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Do the students not know that things like stealing, killing and lying is wrong?


I doubt half can read it anyway.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
53073 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 1:49 pm to
This is retarded


They’re gonna make this cost 100 million and none of the dumbass kids in public school know how to read
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
27616 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 2:11 pm to
Yeah adultery is quite legal.....so many of our lawmakers engage in it.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
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Posted on 4/11/24 at 3:13 pm to
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Yes, they are.


Which religion were the Ten Commandments created for I must ask?
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
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Posted on 4/11/24 at 3:18 pm to
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Well, you're an idiot. So there's that.


Tell me how not feeling religious after reading the Ten Commandments makes me an idiot. Are you saying the reading of something that makes perfect sense must be religious?

How am I supposed to feel religious after reading the Ten Commandments?
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
7342 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 3:32 pm to
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Which religion were the Ten Commandments created for I must ask?


They come from religious texts of Jews and Christians and are commandments from Yahweh....a god of the Jews and Christians.

I sense your perspective is that these commandments are for all mankind therefore are not religious. Is that correct?
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37140 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 4:02 pm to
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Do the students not know that things like stealing, killing and lying is wrong?


This will inform them.

Just like taking down statues will stop racism and crime.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37140 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 4:04 pm to
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They’re gonna make this cost 100 million and none of the dumbass kids in public school know how to read


Just wait until an amendment is added that requires all these signs to be bought from a business owned by the author's brother in law...
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
7566 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 4:06 pm to
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True but by putting the 10 commandments (a christian doctrine)


the 10 commandments predates Christ and is used by non-christians (as in the Jews) too, not just Christians.
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
7566 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 4:09 pm to
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I sense your perspective is that these commandments are for all mankind therefore are not religious. Is that correct?


I think you too are arguing semantics at this point.

I believe he is saying the commandments are not for any one specific religion (i.e Catholics, Baptists, Methodists, etc.). In which case he is correct.

But what you are saying is also correct, by saying those who it's for those who all believe in the same specific god despite not being part of the same specific religion.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 4/11/24 at 4:09 pm to
This’ll fix LA!
Posted by CreoleTigerEsq
Noneya
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 4/11/24 at 4:46 pm to
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Founders were also believers in individual states conducting most of their affairs without heavy federal interference and I doubt would’ve stepped in to tell an individual state who wished to display the Ten Commandments in its public settings to cease.



This bill, if it becomes law, will likely be challenged as unconstitutional (along with the dumb arse bill requiring In God We Trust to be displayed in every classroom).

The Constitutional provisions prohibiting Congress from making laws respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting its free exercise is incorporated into the states (and state legislatures) via Section 1 of the Fourteenth Amendment. This bill is essentially allowing government via the legislature to impose and establish religion (specifically Christian religion) in public schools and in schools that receive public funding. On its face, it is unconstitutional.

If a student or teacher wants to pray individually, completely constitutional (free exercise clause).

If government imposes a law promoting the establishment of religion, completely unconstitutional (establishment clause).

It's not a hard concept to grasp.
This post was edited on 4/11/24 at 5:15 pm
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26513 posts
Posted on 4/11/24 at 4:49 pm to
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How am I supposed to feel religious after reading the Ten Commandments?

How do you get passed the first one without inherently tying it to religion?
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