re: Bill requiring Louisiana public schools to display the Ten Commandments passes House

Can somebody post the ten commandments here. I am sure elementary school kids would love to know what some of those things mean.

another waste of time bill that will have zero effect/impact on kids

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and that will be Louisiana's argument.
that these commandments aren't specific to any one religion, so it's not advocating for any one religion.

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That argument will fall flat on its face.

The First Amendment prohibits Congress from making a law respecting an establishment of religion, period. Even though the tenets of the Ten Commandments can be found in more than one religious text, the fact that religion is established AT ALL (regardless of which religion the Ten Commandments is associated with) is what is unconstitutional.

... and you are correct. They will lose once this goes through the courts.

What these baws don't realize is that if it were legal to allow the 10 Commandments in schools, then schools would also have to permit displays like this:









The edgelords are lying in wait.

It's funny, because there are statutes against theft, perjury, and murder, but none of these words are located anywhere within the Ten Commandments.

Also, there is no criminal statute that exists on record within the state of Louisiana that provides the following definitions:

Though shall not steal.

Though shall not bear false witness against thy neighbor.

Though shall not kill.

If your argument is that the development of criminal law was influenced by Judeo Christian values, I'd agree with you (to an extent), but you're being deliberately obtuse, and trying to place influence in the development of criminal statutes (as state law) by Judeo Christian customs and law, with the promulgation of state law requiring inclusion of religious text in public schools.

Apple, meet orange.

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It would appear that the ten commandments are what inspired and created the fundamental foundation for law and society in modern Western civilization.

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Are we to assume society started with the Torah?

Do you even Code of Hammurabi?

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The reason state laws exist are because of the influence of the commandments rather than "happen" to exist" independent of them. They are the very basis and reason for these laws.

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If a man commits a murder, that man must be killed.
If a man commits a robbery, he will be killed.

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That predates the 10 Commandments by 700-1000 years.

It's from Code of Ur-Nammu

They amended the bill too so that it applies to all public schools and any non-public school that receives any state funds.

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§2122. Ten Commandments; displays
(1) Each public school governing authority and the governing authority of each nonpublic school that receives state funds shall display the Ten Commandments in each building it uses and classroom in each school under its jurisdiction.

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I think they amended that part so that it would be more likely to get challenged in court.

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The republicans try to frame themselves as pro freedom, protecting private property rights, and personal responsibility.

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Do they? I know they used to, but do they still?

I see mostly pandering to populism.

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“Separation of church and state” isn’t in the Constitution. Only that the US Congress can’t establish a national religion. The interpretation of the religion part of the 1st amendment has been completely bastardized.

“Separation of church and state” is the same kind of interpretation the left wants to use to get rid of the 2nd amendment. You can either follow the Constitution based on what’s in it or make up stuff to fit your agenda.

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O.k., but—and I'm glad you brought this up—there really IS a big parallel between the left's attempt to subvert the 2nd and your reading of the 1st.

If we go by only the reading of the literal words without regard for what the words actually meant to the people who wrote them (based on their other writings and historical context), then since there is no recognized official well-regulated militia, there is no right to bear arms.

We know from history that the people who wrote the 2nd meant the citizenry by "well-regulated militia." But that's not exactly what they wrote.

Likewise, we know from history that they did not want the government to endorse or establish an official religion for America, whether that be by a Congressional Act or by some other means. They did not and could not have envisioned the federally controlled public school system of 2024 when they wrote the constitution. In their minds the only way a state religion would be established would be by congressional legislation, so that's what they wrote. But it's clear from history that they would have opposed any other means of. facilitating that outcome as well.

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and that will be Louisiana's argument.
that these commandments aren't specific to any one religion, so it's not advocating for any one religion.

they will (and should) still lose once this goes through the courts.

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Agreed.

The argument that it represents 3-4 religions (if you count Mormons) instead of just one is irrelevant.

It would have to relate to all religions equally in order to pass muster, which it clearly does not.