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re: Autism and Vaccines. Protect your kids and grandkids.

Posted on 8/30/23 at 9:25 am to
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
21434 posts
Posted on 8/30/23 at 9:25 am to
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Now do deaths, hospitalizations, paralysis, deafness, cervical cancer reduction and disease eradicated from diseases that are vaccinated against.


people still get these diseases today. How many are dying vs being treated at the hospital and sent back home?
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
42376 posts
Posted on 8/30/23 at 9:32 am to
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Many people who went to regular old public schools seem to forget about the folks practically sequestered in the Special Education program.


No - I didn’t.

The number of students that would be considered “on the spectrum” back then were minuscule. Again, austism was virtually non-existent.

Today, it is MUCH more pronounced.

I’m correct in my take. Period.

Now as to what is the cause (or causes), I cannot say. However, to state that the numbers are a simple reflection of cases being undiagnosed in the past is, as noted earlier, moronic.

On another note, were you a shot Nazi during Covid? Just curious.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 8/30/23 at 9:34 am to
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people still get these diseases today


Lot of smallpox these days in Missouri?
Posted by LARancher1991
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2015
2061 posts
Posted on 8/30/23 at 9:40 am to
Anti-vaxxer: people were fine before vaccines

No they weren't Karen, they died.
Posted by LARancher1991
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2015
2061 posts
Posted on 8/30/23 at 9:44 am to
Non-existent or non-diagnosed?
I'm going to say non-diagnosed like many other things we have today that supposedly didn't exist "back then"
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
42376 posts
Posted on 8/30/23 at 9:46 am to
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Non-existent or non-diagnosed?


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virtually non-existent.


I stated it correctly.


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I'm going to say non-diagnosed like many other things we have today that supposedly didn't exist "back then"


Then you would be wrong.
This post was edited on 8/30/23 at 9:48 am
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
86370 posts
Posted on 8/30/23 at 9:47 am to
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Now do increasing global temperatures compared to rising autism rates.


Lol
Posted by LARancher1991
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2015
2061 posts
Posted on 8/30/23 at 9:52 am to
Explain the reasoning behind it then. What is the facts that it was non existent compared to non-diagnosed? Non-diagnosis at least has a consistent track record as there are many medical things even in recent history that weren't diagnosed but are now.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
42376 posts
Posted on 8/30/23 at 10:00 am to
Observable instances.

I know what I experienced.
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
15388 posts
Posted on 8/30/23 at 10:28 am to
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On another note, were you a shot Nazi during Covid? Just curious.




No. There was a short period, maybe about 6m or so, where I saw a stark difference in hospital outcomes between the two groups. IE- I quit seeing people who had the vaccine in the hospital. I saw several that had not gotten the vaccine in the hospital. I saw no deaths in the vaccinated group, I saw probably about a dozen in the other. There was only one that was somewhat of a surprise (40something, simple obesity without a cascade of other previously undiagnosed problems. They actually got treated with Ivermectin and still died).

In the group with tons of comorbidities early on, I thought there was some benefit and recommended it to them. Never thought of/saw benefit in young, healthy folks. Never recommended it to anyone who had been previously infected, never recommended a booster (though if a particularly ill/elderly person wanted it and had never been infected before, I told them it was reasonable). My office never administered the vaccine.



But that's only anecdotal observations by me.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78347 posts
Posted on 8/30/23 at 10:32 am to
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What are the arguments *against* the statistics of the study?


1. Austisn isn’t more common it’s more diagnosed
2. the autism statistics include unvaccinated kids.
3. there is no study showing a higher rate of autism in vaccinated kids.

Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154819 posts
Posted on 8/30/23 at 10:35 am to
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Austisn isn’t more common it’s more diagnosed


Stop. They don’t know that and admit that environmental factors could be an issue with how common it is.
Posted by Beauw
Blanchard
Member since Sep 2007
4070 posts
Posted on 8/30/23 at 10:35 am to
It doesn’t matter to them, they have no shame.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 8/30/23 at 10:37 am to
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Hell yeah can’t wait for the return of polio



Polio likely died off due to implementing aseptic technique and engineering controls more than vaccines.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35845 posts
Posted on 8/30/23 at 10:39 am to
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2025… estimates 1 in 2

Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78347 posts
Posted on 8/30/23 at 10:47 am to
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Polio likely died off due to implementing aseptic technique and engineering controls more than vaccines.


probably would have helped, but you can see drops in polio cases directly coinciding with the polio vaccine.

you can also see a drop in world wide cases even in countries that have not made any huge strides in sanitation infrastructure.
This post was edited on 8/30/23 at 10:48 am
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
53977 posts
Posted on 8/30/23 at 10:49 am to
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You people are full blown bat shite crazy. You’d be way better off working harder to make more $$ for your family vs cooking up these insane conspiracy theories.


In your opinion why do you believe autism has skyrocketed the past 40 years?
Posted by Cobbvol
Member since Jun 2020
246 posts
Posted on 8/30/23 at 10:51 am to
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Austisn isn’t more common it’s more diagnosed


Then where are the 40, 50, 60, etc. year old autistic individuals?
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78347 posts
Posted on 8/30/23 at 10:52 am to
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Then where are the 40, 50, 60, etc. year old autistic individuals?


lol having autistic kids and not going to the Doctor to get diagnosed as mildy autistic.

if you wanna find some i’d start off at a model train shop.

I will say it’s extremely beneficial to be diagnosed as even very mildly autistic if you’re in the public school system.
This post was edited on 8/30/23 at 10:56 am
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154819 posts
Posted on 8/30/23 at 10:58 am to
I met a 50 year old autistic guy at a trade show yesterday.
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