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re: At some point the doomers will get tired of being wrong, right?
Posted on 6/15/26 at 2:25 pm to tide06
Posted on 6/15/26 at 2:25 pm to tide06
Are you now seriously trying to argue that China didn’t have access to Iranian oil prior but now does? Nearly all of Iranian exported oil is sold to China. You seriously aren’t capable of debating anything lol good grief you are quite stupid
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Posted on 6/15/26 at 2:25 pm to TenWheelsForJesus
You were told that we were very unlikely to accomplish our goals without boots on the ground. That was the official pentagon assessment.
You supported moving ahead anyway and now we are objectively worse off than when we started.
DJT was telling people to tune in to listen to Levin during that period. Why would he be telling people to tune in if that wasn’t something he was considering?
During that interview Levin advocated specially deploying ground troops.
Again, the point was that we were being led down the path to escalation by Israel and the neocons which was unequivocally true.
You want the tweets from Trump about invading Kharg Island? Here you go:
They knew once we were in we either had to accept a humiliating peace deal or escalate.
Why are you pretending easily verifiable events didn’t happen? Probably because everything you supported with regard to this venture blew up in your face.
You supported moving ahead anyway and now we are objectively worse off than when we started.
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Then, you pretend that some people who are not in the administration, "like Levin and countless posters," simply wanting some things means that it played out that way in real life
DJT was telling people to tune in to listen to Levin during that period. Why would he be telling people to tune in if that wasn’t something he was considering?
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On March 29/30, 2026 (during the U.S.-Iran conflict period), Trump posted on Truth Social:?“Watch Mark Levin interview of Brilliant Marc Thiessen tonight at 8:00 P.M., on FoxNews. Will discuss the importance of hitting Iran, HARD!!!”
During that interview Levin advocated specially deploying ground troops.
Again, the point was that we were being led down the path to escalation by Israel and the neocons which was unequivocally true.
You want the tweets from Trump about invading Kharg Island? Here you go:
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Recent Threat (June 11, 2026): In a Truth Social post, Trump stated that the U.S. would hit Iran “VERY HARD” and, “at some point in the not too distant future, we will be taking Kharg Island, and other oil infrastructure points, and assume total control of their Oil and Gas Markets” (comparing it to U.S. actions in Venezuela).
They knew once we were in we either had to accept a humiliating peace deal or escalate.
Why are you pretending easily verifiable events didn’t happen? Probably because everything you supported with regard to this venture blew up in your face.
Posted on 6/15/26 at 2:25 pm to Bobby OG Johnson
So zero evidence and run away. Solid contribution.
Posted on 6/15/26 at 2:26 pm to PorkSammich
Still denying your wanting slaves forever? Aren’t you?
Posted on 6/15/26 at 2:28 pm to Rip Torner
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All of your projections about Iranian strengths are nothing but hopes and wishes
No my hopes and wishes were to avoid this whole debacle and leave them an afterthought that was dying economically and as a result was vulnerable long term rather than rearm them as a major thorn to our control of the Middle East.
Posted on 6/15/26 at 2:29 pm to tide06
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So zero evidence and run away. Solid contribution.
Posted on 6/15/26 at 2:29 pm to tide06
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They now have defacto control of the strait of hormuz.
No they don’t. This is ridiculous. No one had control of the Strait, but the US had FAR more control of it than Iran did.
Also, there is no $300 billion unless there is an acceptable nuclear deal. And the $300 billion is probably going to come mostly from Gulf countries, not the USA.
This post was edited on 6/15/26 at 2:33 pm
Posted on 6/15/26 at 2:29 pm to Rip Torner
I just quoted the US government sanctions as presented by the Trump administration prior to the escalation in Iran, are you arguing the Trump administration was incorrect as to what they stated?
Posted on 6/15/26 at 2:34 pm to Bobby OG Johnson
So memes and no facts, got it.
Posted on 6/15/26 at 2:37 pm to Penrod
Is the ability to prevent all traffic transmitting the strait not control?
The only naval force in the world capable of intercepting their missile attacks is ours. Are you proposing we sit there indefinitely to escort shipping to keep it open?
The only naval force in the world capable of intercepting their missile attacks is ours. Are you proposing we sit there indefinitely to escort shipping to keep it open?
Posted on 6/15/26 at 2:40 pm to tide06
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So memes and no facts, got it.
Says the mofo that has no facts of any deal yet speaks as though he wrote it
There is nothing I or anyone else can write on this here forum that would ever remove the hatred that you have
I will instead pray for you
Posted on 6/15/26 at 2:53 pm to Bobby OG Johnson
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Says the mofo that has no facts of any deal yet speaks as though he wrote it
Did you miss the VP talking about the deal? I can send you a link?
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There is nothing I or anyone else can write on this here forum that would ever remove the hatred that you have
What hatred do I have?
This post was edited on 6/15/26 at 2:54 pm
Posted on 6/15/26 at 2:56 pm to Lsut81
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What were the "doomers" wrong about regarding Iran?
Pretty much everything regarding the longevity and severity of the conflict.
I still remember the cries of WW3, 20 years of war, boots on the ground, $10 gas, nothing being done domestically. It wasn't that long ago, but apparently the whiners don't have the mental capacity to store memories.
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Opposing $1.50 increase per gallon of gas for 4 months?
4 whole months?!?!
That's like 120 days!!
My God, how did we even survive?
It was only through God's grace that our entire civilization didn't crumble into the dustbin of history after 4 months of inconvenience.
Posted on 6/15/26 at 2:56 pm to tide06
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Is the ability to prevent all traffic transmitting the strait not control?
No. In addition to that you must be able to get your traffic through. Had America been able to get all of its traffic through we would have had control of the Strait.
If Iran had been able to get all of their traffic through they still would not have had control of the Strait because they could not stop America from getting some through.
Here is a simple explanation:
America - Could get some but not all through. Could prevent Iran from getting any through.
Iran - Could get zero through. Could prevent America from getting most through.
Now, based on that, who had the most control? Careful, this is an IQ test.
Posted on 6/15/26 at 3:28 pm to Penrod
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No. In addition to that you must be able to get your traffic through. Had America been able to get all of its traffic through we would have had control of the Strait.
Do you acknowledge no commercial shipping can transit the strait without the express permission of the Iranians due to the risks involved?
I will grant that although a few missiles have struck US navy shipping they appear to be able to operate for the most part when covered by missile defense systems.
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Now, based on that, who had the most control? Careful, this is an IQ test.
Certainly not the US as it related to commercial traffic or else no agreement would’ve been necessary as it would’ve been a fait accompli and the energy markets wouldn’t have dealt with the issues they have.
But I do concede that for whatever period of time the US navy remains in the strait they can interdict traffic just as the Iranians can for non US navy traffic.
This post was edited on 6/15/26 at 3:32 pm
Posted on 6/15/26 at 4:09 pm to Eurocat
And I don't know how the Korea topic worked it's way in, but I'll play.
I'm not saying that American Interventionism hasn't produced some good results, and I personally think the Korean people are pretty awesome, like the Japanese.
But our modern interventionism and "help" often comes with a downside equal to- or greater than- the problem itself.
How much money have we sent to North and Central African countries over the past 50 years to help them get clean drinking water to the most remote villages and establish irrigation systems for farming networks and sustainable agriculture, yet they still have no clean running water and no fields of produce. Where did that money go? To the people in palaces and compounds that already have all the amenities. Further proof of "NGO" entities needing to be abolished.
Kurt Avery, the founder of Sawyer Filtration, has arguably done as much to help Africa in the last 10 years with clean water as the US has done in the last 70.
I'm not saying that American Interventionism hasn't produced some good results, and I personally think the Korean people are pretty awesome, like the Japanese.
But our modern interventionism and "help" often comes with a downside equal to- or greater than- the problem itself.
How much money have we sent to North and Central African countries over the past 50 years to help them get clean drinking water to the most remote villages and establish irrigation systems for farming networks and sustainable agriculture, yet they still have no clean running water and no fields of produce. Where did that money go? To the people in palaces and compounds that already have all the amenities. Further proof of "NGO" entities needing to be abolished.
Kurt Avery, the founder of Sawyer Filtration, has arguably done as much to help Africa in the last 10 years with clean water as the US has done in the last 70.
Posted on 6/15/26 at 4:37 pm to hawgfaninc
Please continue calling your shots!
Posted on 6/15/26 at 4:44 pm to hawgfaninc
The world becomes super, maga cult member level simple when every success belongs to your team, every failure belongs to someone else, and every critic is a ‘doomer.’
Posted on 6/15/26 at 4:55 pm to BBONDS25
Nero and Commodus did it
Posted on 6/15/26 at 4:57 pm to Burt Reynolds
Hence the hyperbole comment. 
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