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re: As someone who’s supported Desantis over Trump since the midterms

Posted on 3/8/23 at 12:12 pm to
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26653 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 12:12 pm to
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So it’s rigged?

How is it remotely possible that this was your response or conclusion following my post?

Me: Nationwide popular vote is a totally meaningless statistic attributable almost entirely to the Democrats' advantage in three states.

You: So you're saying the election was rigged

?????

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And votes don’t matter?

Nope. I did not say that. I said national popular vote doesn't matter. Excess votes in any given state do not "matter". It is a meaningless statistic.

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Weird stance for you DeSantis idiots.

It isn't a stance and it has nothing to do with Ron DeSantis. It is a fact. Donald Trump lost the election because of a few thousand suburban women in Atlanta, Pittsburgh, Phoenix, and Milwaukee. He did not lose because Biden received several million more excess votes in California.

"BUT 81 MILLION VOTES HURR DURR" is such a lazy and stupid mantra that totally ignores how and where Trump actually lost the election. You sound like CNN touting such a totally irrelevant stat. National popular vote should never even be discussed. It is nothing but a propaganda point for urban Democrats.
This post was edited on 3/8/23 at 12:14 pm
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
72724 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 12:16 pm to
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No? Trump won his first election.


SSgt momentofstolenvalor87 doesn't know how our elections work.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
72724 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 12:19 pm to
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They are setting up Trump's 3rd party run if it comes to that.

Because if he loses the primary, OF COURSE it will be the "rigged system".


Absolutely.

But, it's totally not a cult of personality, bro. We just want to MAGA, bro. Why don't you put America First like us, bro? Vote for Trump, bro. He'll win this time, bro. It'll be (D)ifferen(T), bro. Trust us, bro.
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
12981 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 12:22 pm to
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Trump cannot win the general.

I agree but my reasons are different. He’s terrible at selecting his team and is worse at anticipating likely consequences of what he wants to do. I just don’t see him creating enough voters and ballots to overcome the anti-Trump voters and ballots.

I can’t see me giving him another chance. This last time was his last chance and he dropped the ball and proved himself to be incapable of winning against Joe f’n Biden.

NOW he wants to beat democrats at their own game of ballot harvesting? Where was this brilliant idea when he was running for reelection?

This soon to be 77 year old man actually thought he could win by directing his base to NOT vote early. He made the deliberate decision to criticize the winning strategy rather than to use the winning strategy. But now at the age of 77 he suddenly realizes what a winning strategy is? I don’t believe him. What other winning strategies is he going to reject out of stubborn stupidity and/or bad advice?

Now he’s learned his lesson about the hand picked retards he associated with ? Now he’s going to drain the swamp? I don’t believe him.

If by some miracle he succeeds in being sworn in as President in January of 2025, he’ll be pushing 79 years old. The human brain does not improve at that age. He’s not going to suddenly become smarter or wiser. That’s the age we don’t let our parents use the TV remote because they can no longer make sense of it. Why should we believe that he will stop picking retards?

He had his chance and he blew it. If he had stayed off of Twitter, he would still be President. Make people hate you for your great policy moves that they don’t like, make them hate you for being jealous of your awesomeness, but don’t make it easier because you’re an a-hole. Fool them. Let your a-hole be the last thing they see , not the first thing.

I would rather Don Jr. I would rather try DeSantis. Maybe even Greg Abbott. Lion Ted Cruz? Rand Paul? If any of these guys are in a primary with Trump, they get my vote. If Trump wins the primary, he gets my vote.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13355 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 12:26 pm to
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Biden won by ballot harvesting, illegal in most if not all instances. I've never said anything to the contrary.


So, you think they did the ballot harvesting against Trump, but they wouldn't against DeSantis, or would you like to join me in my pre-emptive excuse?
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
15466 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 12:27 pm to
1- Ballot harvesting with drop boxes outside MAGA rallies

2- get back on Twitter SOLELY to discuss shite he talked about in his CPAC speech and Freedom Cities (which I LOVE)
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13355 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 12:34 pm to
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One thing I don't understand with republicans infatuation with Trump is that they are rewarding him for his ... failures? The last time Trump was actually an asset for republicans was 2016. 2018, 2020 and 2022 were all various levels of electoral failures and all of that can be said to be due to Trump.


Trump accomplished more in 4 years than any president in my lifetime accomplished in 8 years, with his own party stabbing him in the back at every opportunity. When you add that to the fact that the very same people that want Trump defeated so terribly, are the sons of bitches that have given us candidates like Bush 2, McCain, and Romney to vote for, it becomes a no-brainer that every American should support Trump 100%.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13355 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 12:38 pm to
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Absolutely.

But, it's totally not a cult of personality, bro. We just want to MAGA, bro. Why don't you put America First like us, bro? Vote for Trump, bro. He'll win this time, bro. It'll be (D)ifferen(T), bro. Trust us, bro.


Maybe Trump can't win, but the only candidate that can win without him is a marxist democrat.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
18007 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 12:39 pm to
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Maybe Trump can't win, but the only candidate that can win without him is a marxist democrat.

You seem to be questioning Trump's patriotism. Do you mean to be doing that?

ETA - I didn't choose my words well above. Strike the thing about patriotism. That wasn't right/fair. But go with this -

How confident are you that should DeSantis beat Trump in the primary, Trump will throw his support behind DeSantis to make sure the country does not have to live through another Biden/Biden-like four years?
This post was edited on 3/8/23 at 12:47 pm
Posted by frogtown
Member since Aug 2017
5064 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 12:44 pm to
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As time passes, I’m not sure Desantis can beat him.


DeSantis hasn't yet entered the race. Things won't get interesting until about six months from now. Hold your judgement until then.
Posted by frogtown
Member since Aug 2017
5064 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 12:49 pm to
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Freedom Cities (which I LOVE)


This is "big government" nonsense. Please think.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13355 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 12:49 pm to
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You seem to be questioning Trump's patriotism. Do you mean to be doing that?


Was I not clear? Let me help you. If Trump is not the nominee, and that nominee is not wholeheartedly endorsed by Trump, we might as well call the election after the primaries. if Trump gets knifed in the back by the republican party AGAIN, marxist democrats cannot possibly lose the upcoming election. Better?
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
14260 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 12:50 pm to
If anyone thinks the GOPe will let Trump win the primary they’re deluding themselves. I assure you they are putting safeguards in place right now to prevent this from happening based on the poll numbers.
This post was edited on 3/8/23 at 12:51 pm
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162258 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 12:52 pm to
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So what the heck can Trump do to win the general?

Lose it again

The only way he has a chance is if things get much much worse
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13355 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 12:59 pm to
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ETA - I didn't choose my words well above. Strike the thing about patriotism. That wasn't right/fair. But go with this -

How confident are you that should DeSantis beat Trump in the primary, Trump will throw his support behind DeSantis to make sure the country does not have to live through another Biden/Biden-like four years?


I think it depends. Did the party simply provide a platform and let the republican voters decide who the nominee will be? Or did they continue using every shitty method in their arsenal to destroy Trump's candidacy? Was power and influence used to freeze Trump out? If so, I seriously doubt Trump would endorse the nominee that such a process would produce, and I would not blame him one bit. As a matter of fact, at that point I would very much want Trump to go scorched earth, however he chooses. His own party stood by and watched as he was railroaded by the FBI, the DNC, the propaganda media, the WHO, the CDC, and the marxist democrat party.
Posted by jlnoles79
Member since Jan 2014
12943 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 1:00 pm to
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Does 4 years of Biden being awful change things? Look how many votes Obama lost from 2008 to 2012.

That’s the only thing I can hope for, but it’s not a solid bet. Trump got smoked in 2020 with ballot harvesting.



This midterms showed how toxic Trump is in places like AZ and GA even with Biden in the WH
Posted by jlnoles79
Member since Jan 2014
12943 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 1:02 pm to
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DeSantis is a Jeb Bush or a Marco Rubio. It’s amazing to me that it’s even an issue!


You must have been devastated when Crist lost


If you think DeSantis is like Jeb then what the hell are you going to do when Trump is gone?
Posted by jlnoles79
Member since Jan 2014
12943 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 1:03 pm to
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This would also benefit Desantis for 2028.


So the retards that think DeSantis is a globalist now will support him in 2028?
Posted by Out da box
Member since Feb 2018
402 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 1:06 pm to
Tigerhold- wake up….. I’m tired of people rationalizing fraudulent elections…. Fix elections, trump crushes any opponent…
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
73089 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 1:16 pm to
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Tigerhold- wake up….. I’m tired of people rationalizing fraudulent elections


he is a cuck hack

already exposed
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