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As someone who’s supported Desantis over Trump since the midterms

Posted on 3/8/23 at 10:42 am
Posted by Stidham8
Member since Aug 2018
6953 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 10:42 am
As time passes, I’m not sure Desantis can beat him. I’m watching clips of Trump’s CPAC speech and he is sharp. His line of saying “they can’t stand that they don’t own me” and “we are never going back to the party of Paul Ryan, Karl Rove, and Jeb Bush” flat out sticks. It’s a good line of reasoning and is going to play well with the majority of Republicans.

We’ll see what happens, but I don’t see him losing to Desantis even though Desantis has a better chance of winning the general.

So what the heck can Trump do to win the general? Are we fricked and stuck with Biden for another 4 years?
This post was edited on 3/8/23 at 10:59 am
Posted by TIGERHOLD
Orleans Parish
Member since Mar 2022
1031 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 10:51 am to
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So what the heck can Trump do to win the general? Are we fricked and stuck with Biden for another 4 years?



Trump cannot win the general. Apart from his base of about 5 million people, everyone else is fed up with his BS. Just look at how every one of his hand-picked candidates went down in flames in the last election while Ron got 59% of the vote.

The primary field will be splintered early on, but then the nobody candidates (Nikki Haley, etc.) will drop out and everyone who actually cares about defeating Brandon will coalesce around Ron.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
21797 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 10:52 am to
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So what the heck can Trump do to win the general?


Stop saying stupid shite, but he’s incapable of doing so. He might can still win acting like a toddler sometimes, but he could make the job of winning a lot easier with just a little bit of moderation.
Posted by Stidham8
Member since Aug 2018
6953 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 10:53 am to
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Stop saying stupid shite, but he’s incapable of doing so. He might can still win acting like a toddler sometimes, but he could make the job of winning a lot easier with just a little bit of moderation.


That’s not going to happen. He’ll trip up on numerous landmines leading up to the general election.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101471 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 10:54 am to
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DeSantis has as much charisma as a tree stump


His publishing a book and making appearances left and right all over the place, while basically saying not much of anything, sure doesn't seem to be helping.

It's hard to figure, who thought that was a good idea.

Yeah, I know, 'muh why does the governor of Florida need to take a stance on stuff?'
Posted by jbdawgs03
Athens
Member since Oct 2017
9659 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 10:55 am to
This is how Trump and any other R candidate for President going forward have to approach elections if they want to win.
Video- Trump - “We will become masters of ballot harvesting”
“Beating the democrats at their own game”
This post was edited on 3/8/23 at 10:57 am
Posted by CU_Tigers4life
Georgia
Member since Aug 2013
7511 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 10:58 am to
If Trump becomes the GOP candidate for the General expect some like Liz Cheney or some other Trump hater to run as an independent for the sole purpose of keeping Trump from winning. All they need to do is take about 5-7 points and the Dems win again.

I'm not saying it's right but there is an element that will do anything to keep Trump for winning
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53473 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 10:59 am to
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Trump cannot win the general. Apart from his base of about 5 million people, everyone else is fed up with his BS.



71 million ma'am.


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Just look at how every one of his hand-picked candidates went down in flames


Ignorance!





Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
71474 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 10:59 am to
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Apart from his base of about 5 million people, everyone else is fed up with his BS.


Weird he got even more votes in his 2020 loss…. You idiots keep forgetting about this.
Posted by Stidham8
Member since Aug 2018
6953 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 11:00 am to
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If Trump becomes the GOP candidate for the General expect some like Liz Cheney or some other Trump hater to run as an independent for the sole purpose of keeping Trump from winning. All they need to do is take about 5-7 points and the Dems win again. I'm not saying it's right but there is an element that will do anything to keep Trump for winning


The GOP establishment can’t stand Trump but they’re not going to sabotage him in a general election when so many positions of power are available if he wins.
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 11:00 am to
Trump has always been an excellent slogan generator. The issue has been his execution and insistence that he surround himself with the very people he claims he wants to remove from DC.
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
9194 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 11:01 am to
Liz Cheney will not take votes from anyone. She is a legend in her own mind.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26436 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 11:01 am to
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I’m watching clips of Trump’s CPAC speech and he is sharp.

And I have no doubt that everyone who voted for him in 2020 will do so again.

That isn’t good enough, and I don’t know what to tell you if you think Trump has or will gain voters from 2020.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26436 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 11:03 am to
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The primary field will be splintered early on, but then the nobody candidates (Nikki Haley, etc.) will drop out and everyone who actually cares about defeating Brandon will coalesce around Ron.

At which point it will be too late. The primary will be over before Super Tuesday with a crowded field.
Posted by Stidham8
Member since Aug 2018
6953 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 11:03 am to
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And I have no doubt that everyone who voted for him in 2020 will do so again. That isn’t good enough, and I don’t know what to tell you if you think Trump has or will gain voters from 2020.


Does 4 years of Biden being awful change things? Look how many votes Obama lost from 2008 to 2012.

That’s the only thing I can hope for, but it’s not a solid bet. Trump got smoked in 2020 with ballot harvesting.
Posted by TIGERHOLD
Orleans Parish
Member since Mar 2022
1031 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 11:04 am to
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71 million ma'am.



How many votes did Brandon get? Who won the swing states?

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Ignorance


How am I ignorant for pointing out that not a single "stop the steal" candidate won?
Doug Mastriano: Loser
Kari Lake: Loser
Blake Masters: Loser
Dr. Oz: Loser (to slingblade Fetterman )

John Gibbs: Loser
Joe Kent: Loser
Tim Michels: Loser
Don Bolduc: Loser
Herschel Walker: Loser
Jody Hice: Loser
Tudor Dixon: Loser
And so on. Voters clearly rejected these candidates because of their association with Trump. This was as more normal GOP candidates in the same states did markedly better. Heck, J.D. Vance only won by 6 points while Mike DeWine won by 25
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13347 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 11:05 am to
If Trump can't win the general election, it will be because the steal is still on, which means that DeSantis couldn't win the general election either. If Trump runs, I will support him 100%. But if the marxists are still overtly violating the right of the American people to choose their representation, I would much prefer that it is done against Trump a second time, rather than have DeSantis tagged with "failed republican presidential candidate" every time his name is mentioned.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26436 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 11:05 am to
You’re forgetting the dozens of House races in R+30 districts where Trump boldly proclaimed that the GOP nominee would win.
Posted by jsmoove
Member since Oct 2010
12627 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 11:06 am to
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This is how Trump and any other R candidate for President going forward have to approach elections if they want to win.
Video- Trump - “We will become masters of ballot harvesting”
“Beating the democrats at their own game”


Complicit Ronna McDonald won't allow that to happen.
Posted by CU_Tigers4life
Georgia
Member since Aug 2013
7511 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 11:07 am to
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The GOP establishment can’t stand Trump but they’re not going to sabotage him in a general election when so many positions of power are available if he wins.


You forget that the GOP frequently has a problem with fricking up momentum with stupidity.
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