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Are there 10 GOP senators who'd vote with the dems to restore Roe versus Wade?
Posted on 6/24/22 at 1:24 pm
Posted on 6/24/22 at 1:24 pm
Clearly it will pass in the house. Needs 60 votes in the senate.
I see 8 , maybe 9 GOP a yes.
Cassidy
Collins
Murkowski
Portman
Romney
Tillis
Toomey
McConnell
Cornyn? maybe
1 more and it becomes a law
I see 8 , maybe 9 GOP a yes.
Cassidy
Collins
Murkowski
Portman
Romney
Tillis
Toomey
McConnell
Cornyn? maybe
1 more and it becomes a law
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Posted on 6/24/22 at 1:24 pm to Northwestern tiger
At this point it would need a constitutional amendment.
The SCOTUS just said it’s a a state right.
The SCOTUS just said it’s a a state right.
This post was edited on 6/24/22 at 1:25 pm
Posted on 6/24/22 at 1:25 pm to Northwestern tiger
Will burn the Republican party to the ground. Long overdue.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 1:25 pm to Northwestern tiger
How can passing a federal law usurp the court's ruling that abortion is up to the states? It seems to that, too, would be struck down.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 1:26 pm to Northwestern tiger
Can Cassidy stomach that?
From his statement today:
From his statement today:
quote:
Today’s decision recognizes that an unborn child has a right to life. Being pro-life means being pro-mothers, pro-babies, and pro-healthy futures—a philosophy I carry with me in the Senate. This is a deeply emotional issue for many Americans, no matter which side one stands, but it is now up to individual states to enact their own policies.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 1:26 pm to Northwestern tiger
I don't think even Romney and McConnell would vote for reinstating Roe v Wade.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 1:27 pm to Northwestern tiger
This kind of already failed once.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 1:28 pm to SammyTiger
quote:
At this point it would need a constitutional amendment.
The SCOTUS just said it’s a a state right.
No, SCOTUS ruled that it is not a Constitutionally-protected right.
SCOTUS did not address the question of whether the federal government is precluded from legislating in the area. How could it? The case before it involved a state statute, not a federal one.
If the feds pass a law, and if SCOTUS says that this is NOT an area denied to Congress (when did THAT last happen?), the federal statute would preempt anything done by any of the States.
This post was edited on 6/24/22 at 1:34 pm
Posted on 6/24/22 at 1:29 pm to SammyTiger
quote:
At this point it would need a constitutional amendment.
The SCOTUS just said it’s a a state right.
I don't think that's correct. What would prevent a federal law from being passed?
Posted on 6/24/22 at 1:30 pm to Northwestern tiger
You don't understand how this works do you?
Posted on 6/24/22 at 1:31 pm to SammyTiger
Constitutional amendments no longer matter. The corrupt establishment will do whatever they want - PERIOD.
At least 12 RINOs in the Senate will vote to abolish state rights over abortion laws. The bribes and kickbacks of billions from the Planned Parenthood mafia will immediately inflate the Cayman accounts of CONgress.
At least 12 RINOs in the Senate will vote to abolish state rights over abortion laws. The bribes and kickbacks of billions from the Planned Parenthood mafia will immediately inflate the Cayman accounts of CONgress.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 1:31 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
SCOTUS did not address the question of whether the federal government is precluded from legislating in the area. How could it? The case before it involved a state statute, not a federal one.
from Kavanaugh's concurrence. Sounds like he's saying that there could be federal law enacted:
quote:
On the question of abortion, the Constitution is therefore neither pro-life nor pro-choice. The Constitution is neutral and leaves the issue for the people and their elected representatives to resolve through the democratic process in the States or Congress—like the numerous other difficult questions of American social and economic policy that the Constitution does not address.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 1:33 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
If the feds pass a law, and if SCOTUS says that this is NOT an area denied to Congress (when did THAT last happen?),
Without even looking at the most recent, 1995. Got a lot more jurists on the bench now that like Lopez.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 1:34 pm to SlowFlowPro
A federal law tying Medicare/Medicaid funding to allowing abortion would absolutely pass constitutional muster, like the .08 BAL laws with federal Highway money
Whether Congress could pass that legislation is the issue
Whether Congress could pass that legislation is the issue
Posted on 6/24/22 at 1:34 pm to Guntoter1
the court left it to the people and their "elected representatives"
so, it possibly opens the door to Congressional action; however, 9th and 10th Amendments would seem to weigh against it (unlike, say, immigration [see Arizona decision]).
so, it possibly opens the door to Congressional action; however, 9th and 10th Amendments would seem to weigh against it (unlike, say, immigration [see Arizona decision]).
Posted on 6/24/22 at 1:35 pm to Wolfhound45
quote:
Will burn the Republican party to the ground. Long overdue.
This.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 1:35 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
SCOTUS did not address the question of whether the federal government is precluded from legislating in the area.
Correct. Every other country that allows abortion on a national scale did it the normal way. Introduce a bill, president signs it. It's law. And when that happens in the US there are a LOT of congressmen who will be shitting in their pants and taking polls every day.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 1:43 pm to Northwestern tiger
quote:
Needs 60 votes in the senate.
I see 8 , maybe 9 GOP a yes.
Believe I'd keep an eye on Richard Burr-NC, too.
He's a no good back-stabbing RINO if there ever was one.
This post was edited on 6/24/22 at 1:48 pm
Posted on 6/24/22 at 1:46 pm to Northwestern tiger
That would get Romney kicked out of LDS. It depends if he's a genuine Mormon or only a Jack Mormon.
Posted on 6/24/22 at 1:50 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
If the feds pass a law, and if SCOTUS says that this is NOT an area denied to Congress (when did THAT last happen?), the federal statute would preempt anything done by any of the States.
That's not how the 10th Amendment works. It has to be an area either specifically granted to Congress or specifically denied to the states. There are no double negatives in the writing of the 10th Amendment.
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