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re: Hypothetical/Wish List for Lane’s possible staff?
Posted by Martin Blank on 11/22/25 at 5:51 pm to tigersquad89
If his wife’s parents are still alive, Moffitt would come back to LSU tomorrow morning if asked.
re: A large number of people here are opposed to even considering the coach with this record…
Posted by Martin Blank on 11/16/25 at 3:49 pm to Oneforthemoney
Assuming your litmus test is .500 or better vs top 25, 10 and 5, who are the coaches who pass your test?
re: Raise your hand if you've had a 25 million dollar side piece
Posted by Martin Blank on 10/28/25 at 3:41 pm to Captain Crown
Where does one find CDAN-style blinds that would cover something as niche as Kelly running around Baton Rouge?
re: It’s not only BK on the way out
Posted by Martin Blank on 10/26/25 at 5:54 pm to EatnCreaux
The buyout Kelly would have to pay to LSU in order for him to leave on his own goes away if Woodward gets fired as athletic director.
The buyout that LSU owes Kelly for LSU firing him is completely unaffected by whether Woodward gets fired or not.
No athletic director would agree to a coach buyout clause that effectively guarantees that he’d be fired first before the head coach.
The buyout that LSU owes Kelly for LSU firing him is completely unaffected by whether Woodward gets fired or not.
No athletic director would agree to a coach buyout clause that effectively guarantees that he’d be fired first before the head coach.
re: What are we really talking on the Kelly buyout?
Posted by Martin Blank on 10/26/25 at 1:38 pm to DBG
That’s an interesting point about what happens if Kelly gets cute and takes a non guaranteed deal in 2026.
My complete and total guess is that LSU would argue that failure to get that contract guaranteed isn’t good faith or due diligence, since nearly all P4 head coach contracts (and nearly all contracts negotiated by Trace Armstrong) are at least 90% guaranteed.
So LSU would just deduct the yearly pay from the 2026 job from the buyout as though it was guaranteed.
My complete and total guess is that LSU would argue that failure to get that contract guaranteed isn’t good faith or due diligence, since nearly all P4 head coach contracts (and nearly all contracts negotiated by Trace Armstrong) are at least 90% guaranteed.
So LSU would just deduct the yearly pay from the 2026 job from the buyout as though it was guaranteed.
re: What are we really talking on the Kelly buyout?
Posted by Martin Blank on 10/26/25 at 1:21 pm to Lester Earl
If anything, the quicker you fire Kelly, the easier it is for him to find that 2016 job and reduce that buyout.
re: For all the people saying Kelly won't accept a lower buyout and resign...
Posted by Martin Blank on 10/26/25 at 12:56 pm to TigerDCC11
He won’t “accept” a lower buyout.
He will be paid a lower buyout because the money he makes coaching a different school in 2026 and beyond reduces his LSU buyout on a dollar for dollar basis. His contract could not be more clear on that point.
He just as clearly has to use due diligence to find another job. If he doesn’t, LSU can arguably reduce his buyout by the amount he should making right at another school.
So he won’t get anywhere near $54 million from LSU, even via his monthly payments until December 2031 (he gets no lump sum whatsoever), regardless of what he’s willing to “accept.”
He will be paid a lower buyout because the money he makes coaching a different school in 2026 and beyond reduces his LSU buyout on a dollar for dollar basis. His contract could not be more clear on that point.
He just as clearly has to use due diligence to find another job. If he doesn’t, LSU can arguably reduce his buyout by the amount he should making right at another school.
So he won’t get anywhere near $54 million from LSU, even via his monthly payments until December 2031 (he gets no lump sum whatsoever), regardless of what he’s willing to “accept.”
re: What are we really talking on the Kelly buyout?
Posted by Martin Blank on 10/26/25 at 12:48 pm to TheArrogantCorndog
It’s $53 million minus whatever he makes at his next coaching job. And he has to use due diligence to find one.
So if he signed a 6 year contract ar $5 million a year at Va Tech or somewhere similar, the buyout goes down by $30 million.
It is paid monthly though. No lump sum at all.
So if he signed a 6 year contract ar $5 million a year at Va Tech or somewhere similar, the buyout goes down by $30 million.
It is paid monthly though. No lump sum at all.
re: The full cost of a coaching reset:
Posted by Martin Blank on 10/23/25 at 2:05 pm to Fast Times @ LSU
Yes. And far more importantly, he had to use his “due diligence and good faith” to mitigate those damages. So much so that LSU specifically has the right to require Kelly to submit any documents they need to determine whether he’s being paid market price for his new job.
So not only does Kelly have to take the Va. Tech or Colorado St. job if offered, he has to do so at market rates.
Kelly can almost certainly get a job making $4 million a year next season, maybe $5 million given how many openings there will be in December.
So even that monthly payout isn’t likely to total anywhere near $9 million per year.
So not only does Kelly have to take the Va. Tech or Colorado St. job if offered, he has to do so at market rates.
Kelly can almost certainly get a job making $4 million a year next season, maybe $5 million given how many openings there will be in December.
So even that monthly payout isn’t likely to total anywhere near $9 million per year.
re: Brian Kelly went on vacation during the bye week?!?
Posted by Martin Blank on 10/20/25 at 1:40 pm to Fun Bunch
There’s also not a ton to “scrape up.”
Even if you assume the total buyout is $54 million (it’ll be closer to $30 million with offsets), there is no lump sum payment to make, like Billy Napier is about to get.
The buyout is paid monthly, just like Kelly gets paid now. The only difference once Kelly is fired is that he’s being paid to not coach instead of to coach.
So the big money guys would need to get rounded up to make sure they can hire an expensive new coach after the season. But there’s time for that between now and a new hire (Kelly’s hiring was announced on November 30, 2021) - the actual buyout of Kelly doesn’t really require a ton of financial work on the front end.
Even if you assume the total buyout is $54 million (it’ll be closer to $30 million with offsets), there is no lump sum payment to make, like Billy Napier is about to get.
The buyout is paid monthly, just like Kelly gets paid now. The only difference once Kelly is fired is that he’s being paid to not coach instead of to coach.
So the big money guys would need to get rounded up to make sure they can hire an expensive new coach after the season. But there’s time for that between now and a new hire (Kelly’s hiring was announced on November 30, 2021) - the actual buyout of Kelly doesn’t really require a ton of financial work on the front end.
re: Real questions facing BK
Posted by Martin Blank on 10/19/25 at 3:32 pm to Hot Carl
LSU literally did just this with Miles so he could take the Kansas job.
And paid Orgeron full price to go away. So LSU has plenty of goodwill when it comes to paying people to go away.
Negotiating a buyout down, where the coach still gets tens of millions of dollars and maybe even gets it much sooner than the contract requires, is way different from letting him twist in the wind for an entire season with no NIL and lame duck coordinators.
And paid Orgeron full price to go away. So LSU has plenty of goodwill when it comes to paying people to go away.
Negotiating a buyout down, where the coach still gets tens of millions of dollars and maybe even gets it much sooner than the contract requires, is way different from letting him twist in the wind for an entire season with no NIL and lame duck coordinators.
re: Real questions facing BK
Posted by Martin Blank on 10/19/25 at 3:28 pm to Sofaking2
By the time you factor in offsets and such, you can probably replace the entire offensive staff for under $3 million in terms of buyouts, which again are paid monthly.
re: Real questions facing BK
Posted by Martin Blank on 10/19/25 at 3:07 pm to supatigah
This is a fine line to walk.
It makes sense as a leverage piece to get Kelly to take less (although LSU may be better off paying more monthly than less in a lump sum).
But do you want to make things so bad for Kelly next year that you can’t entice the caliber of coach LSU fans expect to hire? Why would a hotshot ACC or Big XII coach, to say nothing of SEC or Big 10, sign up to work for an AD who sabotaged the last guy on his way out the door?
It makes sense as a leverage piece to get Kelly to take less (although LSU may be better off paying more monthly than less in a lump sum).
But do you want to make things so bad for Kelly next year that you can’t entice the caliber of coach LSU fans expect to hire? Why would a hotshot ACC or Big XII coach, to say nothing of SEC or Big 10, sign up to work for an AD who sabotaged the last guy on his way out the door?
re: Real questions facing BK
Posted by Martin Blank on 10/19/25 at 2:42 pm to supatigah
I am curious why Scott “is not the decision maker.”
Is that for money reasons?
Is that for money reasons?
re: Real questions facing BK
Posted by Martin Blank on 10/19/25 at 2:41 pm to bones71
That’s concerning too. Because the obvious solution would be for Scott to get Landry to directly sign off on a Kelly firing and a Kiffin or Lashlee hiring, so a new system president’s hands are tied.
re: Real questions facing BK
Posted by Martin Blank on 10/19/25 at 2:13 pm to supatigah
That is a tough one.
In a perfect world, guys like Scott would know which way the wind is blowing, and know who’s going to get the job. Then go get at least tacit approval of whatever Scott wants to do.
Also agree that there’s good reasons for both sides to agree to a much smaller amount, paid in a lump so Kelly can just go get one more job and not have to worry about LSU suing him for not making enough at his new school.
In a perfect world, guys like Scott would know which way the wind is blowing, and know who’s going to get the job. Then go get at least tacit approval of whatever Scott wants to do.
Also agree that there’s good reasons for both sides to agree to a much smaller amount, paid in a lump so Kelly can just go get one more job and not have to worry about LSU suing him for not making enough at his new school.
re: Real questions facing BK
Posted by Martin Blank on 10/19/25 at 1:52 pm to supatigah
Point of Order - Kelly’s contract does have a duty to mitigate in it. In fact, he’s required to submit to LSU all documents that would allow LSU to determine if he’s getting paid enough at his new job.
If Kelly gets fired tomorrow, I’ll bet $1 that LSU’s attorneys will argue that Kelly could get a job in 2026 making $4 million to $6 million a year, and adjust his buyout accordingly.
Multiply that by 6 years and you can shave a lot off of that total buyout figure (which also has no lump sum and is just paid monthly).
If Kelly gets fired tomorrow, I’ll bet $1 that LSU’s attorneys will argue that Kelly could get a job in 2026 making $4 million to $6 million a year, and adjust his buyout accordingly.
Multiply that by 6 years and you can shave a lot off of that total buyout figure (which also has no lump sum and is just paid monthly).
re: Everyone is talking BK buyout... What about the rest of the staff?
Posted by Martin Blank on 10/19/25 at 12:52 pm to ActusHumanus
Almost every coach has the same buyout language. Full guarantee, paid monthly with no lump sum, full offset language and best efforts clauses.
So let’s say you fire Sloan, who makes right at $1 million a year and has 1 year left.
He can definitely go get a QB coach job somewhere, or even a mid major OC job, making $400k to $600k a year. At the very least LSU can argue that he can, and pay the buyout accordingly.
So now you’re only talking about paying Sloan (in this example) around $500k in equal monthly installments for a year, which is chicken feed.
And some of the position coaches will probably find jobs that pay enough to almost cancel out the buyout.
So the staff buyouts are basically meaningless. It’s paying Kelly a net $30 million or so to go away that matters.
So let’s say you fire Sloan, who makes right at $1 million a year and has 1 year left.
He can definitely go get a QB coach job somewhere, or even a mid major OC job, making $400k to $600k a year. At the very least LSU can argue that he can, and pay the buyout accordingly.
So now you’re only talking about paying Sloan (in this example) around $500k in equal monthly installments for a year, which is chicken feed.
And some of the position coaches will probably find jobs that pay enough to almost cancel out the buyout.
So the staff buyouts are basically meaningless. It’s paying Kelly a net $30 million or so to go away that matters.
re: “Pretty in Pink” was released today in ‘86. John Hughes finest work
Posted by Martin Blank on 2/28/24 at 3:19 pm to JDPndahizzy
So did everyone else.
The original script had Molly Ringwald’s character end up with Ducky. The women in the test audiences wanted her to end up with Andrew McCarthy, so Hughes re-wrote the ending.
Not to be deterred, Hughes rewrote the script, flipped the genders, had the lead character end up with the friend instead of the more popular love interest like he wanted to in the first place, and called it Some Kind of Wonderful. Nobody minded this time.
Ringwald’s refusal to take the Mary Stuart Masterson role in that film is the reason she never worked for Hughes again.
The original script had Molly Ringwald’s character end up with Ducky. The women in the test audiences wanted her to end up with Andrew McCarthy, so Hughes re-wrote the ending.
Not to be deterred, Hughes rewrote the script, flipped the genders, had the lead character end up with the friend instead of the more popular love interest like he wanted to in the first place, and called it Some Kind of Wonderful. Nobody minded this time.
Ringwald’s refusal to take the Mary Stuart Masterson role in that film is the reason she never worked for Hughes again.
re: Reasons I think House is getting fired
Posted by Martin Blank on 1/3/24 at 11:00 am to RonLaFlamme
If that’s what you took from “(i)f Kelly does him a solid and allows him to find an NFL LB job,” and “(House) has to use “best efforts” to find a new job if fired. If he doesn’t go find an NFL LB job on his own, LSU has the right to deduxxt (sic) from the buyout”?
Then I wish you well in your future endeavors.
Then I wish you well in your future endeavors.
re: Reasons I think House is getting fired
Posted by Martin Blank on 1/2/24 at 10:23 pm to RonLaFlamme
If you can explain to me why Matt House would resign rather than be fired, and voluntarily walk away from $2.88 million (ETA: $3.69 million before offsets) over the next 24 months, I’m all ears.
Feel free to go into great detail, with lots of bullet points as you walk me through the contract language I linked above, seeing as how I’m not as smart as you.
ETA: as was pointed out in another thread, it’s actually $3.69 million that House would be walking away from, before offsets
But that makes it less likely that House would walk away from that much money by resigning to go back to the NFL, not more.
Feel free to go into great detail, with lots of bullet points as you walk me through the contract language I linked above, seeing as how I’m not as smart as you.
ETA: as was pointed out in another thread, it’s actually $3.69 million that House would be walking away from, before offsets
But that makes it less likely that House would walk away from that much money by resigning to go back to the NFL, not more.
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