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re: Anyone Watching The Ahmaud Arbery Murder Trial?
Posted on 11/18/21 at 9:30 am to CU_Tigers4life
Posted on 11/18/21 at 9:30 am to CU_Tigers4life
I am going to guess if you don't have a million dollars or so handy, you might be out of luck in a court of law on a serious charge.
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Posted on 11/18/21 at 9:34 am to mmcgrath
quote:I agree. As I've said, if the defense does not put on witnesses to back up Bubba's claimed perceptions, he's going to be in trouble.
His Mom told him about stuff that she saw on Facebook. Pretty sure that doesn't count as "immediate knowledge."
Obviously his team would know about differentials between McMichael's claims, and the number of formally reported neighborhood burglaries. They'd have anticipated the state focusing in on it during the cross.
Posted on 11/18/21 at 9:45 am to NC_Tigah
On court Tv just now the host and the two attorneys were discussing " two words" Travis said right after the killing that may or may not make it into the trial that could change everything,but the host would not say what they were?
This post was edited on 11/18/21 at 9:46 am
Posted on 11/18/21 at 9:50 am to AU66
You can’t say those words on network TV. I’m sure you can guess what they were
This post was edited on 11/18/21 at 9:51 am
Posted on 11/18/21 at 9:53 am to AMS
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paging azkiger.
Is that the person who has been saying wait and see the trial before taking a hardline stance on this trial?
One would assume he's watching the trial with an open mind.
Posted on 11/18/21 at 9:54 am to CU_Tigers4life
quote:
I fix it just for you..happy now Mr. Helper?
That wasn't a correction, I was saying Ahmaud isn't watching.
Posted on 11/18/21 at 9:55 am to CU_Tigers4life
Nope. I didn't even pay attention to the case itself.
Last few years, I've only paid attention to the Michael Brown case, the Jacob Blake case and the Kyle Rittenhouse case.
Last few years, I've only paid attention to the Michael Brown case, the Jacob Blake case and the Kyle Rittenhouse case.
Posted on 11/18/21 at 10:08 am to AU66
quote:
On court Tv just now the host and the two attorneys were discussing " two words" Travis said right after the killing that may or may not make it into the trial that could change everything,but the host would not say what they were?
There’s been rumblings of them using racist language after the shooting or in texts but nothing officially submitted to the record that I know of.
I think people are hanging on that to hope it was race motivated instead of just your average idiots that grabbed their guns and went out for vigilante justice.
Both are bad, but one side actively wants it to have been race motivated.
Posted on 11/18/21 at 10:10 am to 3nOut
quote:
Both are bad, but one side actively wants it to have been race motivated.
They've gotten blueballs from so many fake racist incidents you can hardly blame them.
Posted on 11/18/21 at 10:12 am to threeputt
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You can’t say those words on network TV. I’m sure you can guess what they were
I'm guessing one started with an F, and the other with an N?
Posted on 11/18/21 at 10:18 am to Indefatigable
He’s not doing all that badly this morning.
Posted on 11/18/21 at 10:20 am to the808bass
This post was edited on 11/18/21 at 10:21 am
Posted on 11/18/21 at 10:43 am to AMS
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travis testifying he didnt know who had been stealing anything in the neighborhood and multiple people were also seen in the same areas arbery was. absolutely destroying the justification azkiger invented from his imagination.
The trial lawyer I linked wasn't named "his imagination". All you need is to think that Arbery is more likely than not to have entered that property with the intent to steal and it justifies the citizen's arrest law. Considering what the McMichaels did know, I don't think that's an outlandish assumption.
That said, and I didn't feel like doing this because it was a little bit of digging, but check these posts out.
Here, here, here, here, here, and here.
There's more, I just got tired of saying links to post here. I had a similar view of this case as you did, then I read the law and understood that it's not an open and shut case. If they're convicted of murder will I be surprised? Not at all. If their not convinced, you will be though. And your confusion will be because you don't understand the law.
Posted on 11/18/21 at 10:54 am to Azkiger
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All you need is to think that Arbery is more likely than not to have entered that property with the intent to steal and it justifies the citizen's arrest law.
I don’t know why you continue on insisting this when it’s clear that immediate knowledge of a crime is required for a citizen’s arrest. The McMichaels also didn’t say they were trying to make a citizen’s arrest. Which probably doesn’t help them.
Posted on 11/18/21 at 11:03 am to the808bass
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when it’s clear that immediate knowledge of a crime is required for a citizen’s arrest.
Is the proponderance of evidence the threshold needed for "immediate knowledge"?
I've looking into case law a decent bit and I couldn't really understand the precedents set. I'd pass the ball to an actual lawyer instead of trying to interpret the criteria/limitations of that.
Posted on 11/18/21 at 11:11 am to the808bass
The Assistant Prosecutor just got up for 3 minutes and made a horrible mistake.
Probably will get ripped into by the judge when they come back from break at 12:45 pm EST. She asked the witness "Do you believe that someone stealing is deserving of the death penalty?"
The witness was basically a throw away witness of no consequence who had virtually no relevance to the case. The young Assistant Pros probably saw a question like that on a TV show and thought since it works there it would work in real life and she can get some hits on social media.
On a side note Travis got hurt on cross examination as expected.
Probably will get ripped into by the judge when they come back from break at 12:45 pm EST. She asked the witness "Do you believe that someone stealing is deserving of the death penalty?"
The witness was basically a throw away witness of no consequence who had virtually no relevance to the case. The young Assistant Pros probably saw a question like that on a TV show and thought since it works there it would work in real life and she can get some hits on social media.
On a side note Travis got hurt on cross examination as expected.
Posted on 11/18/21 at 11:18 am to mmcgrath
quote:
made a horrible mistake
Where is the mistake?
McMicheal exited his truck with a shotgun and (according to his own testimony) the background understanding to never pull a gun unless he was prepared to use the lethal force it implies.
This post was edited on 11/18/21 at 11:19 am
Posted on 11/18/21 at 11:21 am to mmcgrath
quote:
The Assistant Prosecutor
I wonder why she's on the team
Posted on 11/18/21 at 11:22 am to The Boat
quote:
I wonder why she's on the team
Probably because she works at the D.A.'s office.
Posted on 11/18/21 at 11:24 am to TBoy
Christopher Darden worked in the DA's office too
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