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re: Any takers for a discussion about “Marxian economics”?

Posted on 11/3/26 at 8:55 am to
Posted by 4cubbies
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Posted on 11/3/26 at 8:55 am to
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It's the point. You work until you gain capital you use capital to leverage more capital. The more you own the less you need to produce. .
would this be true for producers too? Like companies/corporations?
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
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Posted on 11/3/26 at 8:55 am to
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This boomer did none of that



Sorry you missed out on the opportunity to enrich yourself at the expense of your fellow Americans while lining the pockets of Communist China.


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but I do hope the likes of you and other whiners rots.



Pointing out reality is not whining.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 11/3/26 at 8:55 am to
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Very few, if any, posters know anything about Marx’s theories or his writing…


I can get in the ring here, but you won't like it.

Posted by AUJACK
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 11/3/26 at 8:55 am to
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Did the central planning align with the decline of real wages and de industrialization though? That started in the 50s or 60s.


Central Planning was introduced in 1928 by Joseph Stalin through a series of centralized Five-Year Plans. Long story short, estimated 10 million people starved to death, the economy and the plan was a disaster. The Soviet Union was a failure. China is still a third world country with limited freedom unless you are a party official, oh and don't forget the purge, The Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution. How many people died?

You want to talk about North Korea?

Hey there is Cuba? Can't keep the lights on and the people suffer but hey, according to Bernie and you they have free health care.

You are not smart and not nearly as smart as you think you are, actually you are a moron. I suggest you stop and reevaluate your education and start over from scratch.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 11/3/26 at 8:56 am to
Are Marxists ready to have the conversation about pushing women into the labor market was quite literally an op to stagnate wages?

That's why we used to be able to raise a family on a Janitor's wage.

Then when it began to stabilize it redirected to foreign labor
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 11/3/26 at 8:56 am to
Karl Marx argues that capitalism generates wealth by exploiting workers' labor, concentrating profits among capital owners, and creating economic inequality and recurring crises.

Which isn't untrue. But If labor is fairly paid is it exploited? Like others pointed out. Our poor are rich in the world stage. Our system has flaws but I can't realtor name a better one. More countries want to adopt our system or adapt parts of it.
Posted by RohanGonzales
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Posted on 11/3/26 at 8:57 am to
The "echo chamber" is discussing Marxism on election day.

Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
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Posted on 11/3/26 at 8:57 am to
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Are Marxists ready to have the conversation about pushing women into the labor market was quite literally an op to stagnate wages?



Not only stagnate wages but also kill off the nuclear family. Feminism is one of the most damaging movements in history
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
64398 posts
Posted on 11/3/26 at 8:59 am to
Maybe we’re using different definitions of the term?

I’m referring to a set of political and economic policies implemented by a government to reduce its budget deficit or public debt.

The push toward privatization was/is to save money, right?
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 11/3/26 at 8:59 am to
Well in a free market those workers choose to work for those wages.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
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Posted on 11/3/26 at 8:59 am to
One would think the producer would produce a much as they could that could be distributed without lowering demand or profits. But that is more economics.
If a car company made 3x the amount of cars demand calls for they would have to cut prices and lose profits. So there is a cap to producing.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
64398 posts
Posted on 11/3/26 at 8:59 am to
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Not much austerity going on in reality
Very clearly but we still hear arguments for privatization ad nauseum.
This post was edited on 11/3/26 at 9:02 am
Posted by lurking
Member since Nov 2022
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Posted on 11/3/26 at 9:00 am to
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Are Marxists ready to have the conversation about pushing women into the labor market was quite literally an op to stagnate wages?


You’re going to upset the boss bitch OP.

(She’s unemployed with delinquent children)
Posted by goatmilker
With Chinese expect nationalism
Member since Feb 2009
78791 posts
Posted on 11/3/26 at 9:00 am to
Most of his writing was describing the problems of 19th century economies.
I found his solutions to be no more complicated than take the economy from them here and give it to those people over there.
Posted by Pedropatterstine
Member since Aug 2026
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Posted on 11/3/26 at 9:02 am to
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Our system has flaws but I can't realtor name a better one. More countries want to adopt our system or adapt parts of it.


IMO, everyone legally in this country has an opportunity to better themselves if they simply apply themselves, show some strong work ethic, and sacrifice a little. The problem we have now is that the younger generations don't want to work hard, in general, and definitely aren't willing to sacrifice....they want what they want, and they want it now, and still, they aren't willing to work hard. They don't want to live within their means, or build wealth. They want get rich quick. The American Dream is still alive and well, for those that are actually willing to commit and sacrifice.
Posted by Roaad
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Member since Aug 2006
86274 posts
Posted on 11/3/26 at 9:03 am to
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She’s unemployed with delinquent children
was this necessary?
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 11/3/26 at 9:03 am to
That is true and more successful companies can pay more and have greater benefits as a result of their success. In Marxism. Every one makes the same regardless of job (on paper not practice)
Our system you want to advance to get a raise or increase productivity for bonuses.

This post was edited on 11/3/26 at 9:04 am
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 11/3/26 at 9:04 am to
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was this necessary?


Yes.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
75991 posts
Posted on 11/3/26 at 9:05 am to
Yeah when I was a kid everyone wanted to be an astronaut or a doctor. Now every kid wants to be an influencer or a streamer.
Posted by lurking
Member since Nov 2022
4374 posts
Posted on 11/3/26 at 9:05 am to
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was this necessary?


Yes. To fully understand the depths of her delusion you have to first grasp her station.
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