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re: Angola Inmates File Lawsuit Over "Dangerous" Conditions

Posted on 9/17/23 at 6:47 pm to
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61385 posts
Posted on 9/17/23 at 6:47 pm to
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Ive been to the rodeo more than most and leave it at that.


So your knowledge about life at Angola comes from your attendance at the annual prison rodeo.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90593 posts
Posted on 9/17/23 at 6:47 pm to
Oddly enough you keep babbling and never supply any facts.

No wonder you voted for Biden and his racist crime bill.
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
13233 posts
Posted on 9/17/23 at 6:50 pm to
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so the only alternative to working the fields in 100+ degree heat is hanging out at a country club?

Or maybe...just maybe...not be a criminal.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
28576 posts
Posted on 9/17/23 at 6:50 pm to
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So your knowledge about life at Angola comes from your attendance at the annual prison rodeo.

For someone who claims to be writing a dissertation, you demonstrate a surprising inability to process what you read.
Posted by thejuiceisloose
Member since Nov 2018
6387 posts
Posted on 9/17/23 at 7:03 pm to
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If the crime is inhumane, the punishment must be inhumane!!


Too bad that pesky Eighth Amendment is in the way of your wishes
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
34210 posts
Posted on 9/17/23 at 7:16 pm to
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Angola Inmates File Lawsuit Over "Dangerous" Conditions

Just hang them all and call it a day
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 9/17/23 at 7:18 pm to
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So your knowledge about life at Angola comes from your attendance at the annual prison rodeo.

Are there any factoids in the course of doing your post-graduate publication related work in which you contrast your expressed support of The Russian Revolution and their prisons or judicial actions - or extra-judicial actions.

You seem to hanker for some iteration of Mr. Marx and Mr. Hegel's dialectics and their consequences; what parts of the behaviors of their adherents and their actions make you enamored of such movement, as you have expressed here repeatedly?

Any opinion of the genocides they perpetrated in their pursuit of the same thing you pursue? 70,000,000 ethnic Russians murdered would be a good beginning point. The 150,000,000 that followed the next 100 years would make for a good followup.

What part of incarceration perpetrated by your fellow travelers make you most ready to march for your cause?

Any work in these areas?
This post was edited on 9/17/23 at 7:40 pm
Posted by Dirt Booger
Comanche County
Member since Apr 2023
842 posts
Posted on 9/17/23 at 7:41 pm to
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If they refuse to work or fail to meet quotas, they can be sent to solitary confinement or otherwise punished, according to disciplinary guidelines.

Similar to if you have a job and fail to do it properly or on time your boss can fire you. If they are assigned to a working cell block and dont work, then they are sent to other housing.

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This labor serves no legitimate penological or institutional purpose,” the suit said.
IDK how they can say this. A grass crew cuts grass. Field workers harvest crops and prepare fields. They even have some that collect and shell pecans when the pecans start falling. These pecans are then used to make the pecan pies that inmates are served in all Louisiana DOC facilities during holidays. Its work with a purpose. Would be stupid for DOC to pay a private company to cut its grass or perform these other services.

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The suit said the work is especially dangerous for those with disabilities or health conditions in the summer months,
Its called a "duty Status" that they can go to the infirmary and get if they arent healthy enough to work. Really no big deal

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work “notwithstanding their increased risk of illness or injury,” the suit said.
Most all people are required to work to pay for their food and housing in life. Some of the work done is dangerous and has certain risk.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
102715 posts
Posted on 9/17/23 at 7:55 pm to
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I've heard from a LEO that the place is severely corrupt.


This is prison in general.

I don’t think the Mayor of Kingstown show is really that far off from how the prison system works. It’s not really a punishment for career criminals it’s just a base of operations
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
32152 posts
Posted on 9/17/23 at 8:06 pm to
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I know plenty of people who spent decades in Angola.
why does this not surprise me
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
19304 posts
Posted on 9/17/23 at 8:44 pm to
Because some people learn things, others hear things, and yet some people know people who did things
Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
10721 posts
Posted on 9/17/23 at 10:00 pm to
Newsflash, brah, lack of AC and working outside don’t come close to this standard. Also, deliberate indifference is applicable to suits against guards or for failure to monitor medical conditions, you’re alleging a conditions-of-confinement claim that is judged by an entirely different standard. I’m guessing you’re one of the former (or a current?) prison writ writers since you cite caselaw but don’t understand it.
Posted by Dex Morgan
Member since Nov 2022
3227 posts
Posted on 9/17/23 at 10:44 pm to
Oh please. But I would say many prisoners have a legitimate complaint in that they are in danger in prison. Not all prisoners are in there for violent crimes. They shouldn't be in the same facility as rapists, murderers, etc. They shouldn't have to fear being raped, shanked, assaulted etc by other prisoners. And not everyone in prison is guilty. Although some of you republicans (mainly Desantis supporters) still fail to recognize that even after seeing what has been done to Trump.
Posted by PhtevenWithaV
Member since Jul 2022
1066 posts
Posted on 9/17/23 at 11:26 pm to
Theres jobs on death row with ac as well
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
63678 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 5:22 am to
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I forgot that the majority of posters here already know everything. And if you encounter something you don’t know, a ten minute google search will make you an expert.


The irony in this statement from you is palpable.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61385 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 6:07 am to
It’s interesting that the men here love to clutch to the low hanging fruit and scream “sHe’S EmOtiOnAL!1!1!111” instead of actually posing a critical argument. I’m extremely open to disagreements, but I really don’t see much in the way of arguments that constitute anything other than “you’re stupid! You’re such a moron! You’ve had sex before!”

It’s so stupid. And now here you are with another personal attack in lieu of an actual argument.

So, cue a laughing emoji with another brilliant critique that will either be “see? I told you” or “idiot” or some other completely futile insult while smugly congratulating yourself for “winning” a discussion by insulting me.
This post was edited on 9/18/23 at 6:13 am
Posted by vl100butch
Ridgeland, MS
Member since Sep 2005
37091 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 6:12 am to
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I’ve been sharing facts about Angola and DOC throughout this entire thread.

I’ll share my research once my dissertation is published.


cubbies, have you ever read Mark Carelton's book on Angola?

It was a required text in Louisiana History back in the 1970's (a wonderful man that we lost much too soon to cancer)
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61385 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 6:19 am to
I haven’t! I’ll have to look for a copy.

I’m most interested in what education looks like in prisons across the state. Did you know there’s legislation that prevents men older than 25 from receiving special education in Angola? The average age at the time of conviction of someone at Angola is 33. 75% of inmates in state custody are high school dropouts. So a significant number of inmates in Angola aren’t eligible for GED prep because they were too old when they were arrested.

I’m also really interested in reentry.



Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
63678 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 6:24 am to
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And now here you are with another personal attack in lieu of an actual argument.



What? You do realize that all I did was turn your own statement back against you, right?

If you don't want people calling you stupid, don't act stupid. You come off as a college frosh who has had their first whatever101 class and proceeds to act like they're going to bring the light of knowledge to the world. It's obnoxious.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61385 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 6:39 am to
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You do realize that all I did was turn your own statement back against you, right?



Yeah, that’s my whole point.


I know you are but what am I?



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You come off as a college frosh who has had their first whatever101 class and proceeds to act like they're going to bring the light of knowledge to the world.


And? If you don’t want to discuss the things I’m interested in- DON’T. No one is forcing you to read my posts or reply to me. Most if not all the threads I start ask questions, anyway. I don’t claim to be an expert of any of the ideas I’ve brought up.


I happen to know a decent amount about certain topics, like DOC for a number of reasons. Notice that another poster basically posted the same things I did about Angola and DOC and his post was upvoted while people are extremely offended by my post(s) with the same information. It’s so juvenile.
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