Started By
Message

re: Alito & Thomas wish to review Obergefell v. Hodges

Posted on 2/7/25 at 2:39 pm to
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
46369 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 2:39 pm to
I don’t know. I’m fine with gay marriage and it would greatly threaten the midterm elections. Leave it alone.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476900 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 2:39 pm to
quote:

Thomas thinks privacy via substantive due process is untethered, incomprehensible fairy dust,

Only because it led to Roe, but really, Obergfell.

Thomas omitted Loving from his dissent in Obergfell. I just looked it up and I didn't remember wrong when mentioning Griswold.

quote:

and I expect he'll be replaced with a conservative jurist without that particular obsession anyway.

Thomas has gotten overly political and more hypocritical/less serious as his personal life (specifically his wife) has been attacked more, publicly.

This is best seen in his random and irrelevant "special prosecutor" concurrence in the immunity case.

Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
26833 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 2:42 pm to
quote:

Thomas omitted Loving from his dissent in Obergfell. I just looked it up and I didn't remember wrong when mentioning Griswold.



That's right. The big uproar at the time was that he specifically omitted that one - for obvious reasons
Posted by HagaDaga
Member since Oct 2020
7866 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 2:44 pm to
quote:

Thomas has gotten overly political

you lefties. As if your judges are politically pure in their decisions. Heck one wouldnt define what a woman is, due to politics. The same one that was put on the court only due to the current political wind, not because she was the best option.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476900 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 2:44 pm to
quote:

you lefties


Posted by Fells
Member since Jul 2015
4361 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 2:47 pm to
quote:

Not have faux religious ceremonies mocking Christians


Marriage existed before Christianity and has existed separately throughout human history. Just because you attach a religious connection to it does not mean that it is inherently religious. A Hindu wedding is not mocking Christianity, just as a gay wedding is not.

quote:

At the end of the day, brace yourself, gay "marriage" will never or can never be equivalent to hetero-marriage. Our govt needs to figure out how to separate the 2, as benifits need to be given to hetero couples to benifit our society. It's not giving one right to one over another, because the gay couples can't provide the same return


Pretty fascist perspective. Fascism, as defined by Mussolini and Gentile, essentially boils down to "people only exist to serve the state". The purpose of marriage is not to serve the state, it's to serve the individuals involved.

quote:

Gays couldn't leave it be, and just push for their own gay govt version via civil unions. Which has no benefit to society/govt.


You are implying that creating children is the only purpose/value of marriage which is wild. Not that it really matters since that is a fascist perspective, but marriage provides many benifits to society and the economy, such as joined economic power (how many people are buying houses on a single income?), opportunity for better decision making (a partner with a vested interest to explore ideas with), a safety net if one partner gets laid-off or has a health crisis, general caretaking, ect. They all apply to gay marriages just as much as hetero marriages.


Your entire perspective is wild, un-American and ultimately wrong.
Posted by LSUFAITHFUL2
Member since Feb 2024
151 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 2:51 pm to
What website is AF Post? They are literally just trying to create paranoia amongst LGBTQ and those that support gay marriage. The Supreme Court can’t do squat about gay marriage at this point. After Obergefell, Congress passed the Respect For Marriage Act which requires the federal government to respect same sex marriages and prevents states from denying rights related to out of state marriages (I.e. must respect out of state same sex marriages)

The dissents in Obergefell took issue with the majority that said same sex marriage is a constitutional right. Their issue was that this robbed the people of the ability to self govern (through legislation).

After Congress passed legislation (bipartisan) on this topic, there’s really nothing for the Supreme Court to say other than that statute is unconstitutional, which seems unlikely given that was entirely the dissents point. That this can only be accomplished by legislation.
This post was edited on 2/7/25 at 2:54 pm
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
96993 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 2:54 pm to
quote:

This is where I think conservatives go too far.


Agreed. I honestly don’t care if they want to marry or not. Should be up to them.
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
34286 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 2:58 pm to
quote:

We weren't discussing the legal decision, Mr. Illiterate. That digression had nothing to do with the legal merits or justifications of the ruling.

You dont take it well when someone owns you. The poster replied to this FROM YOU
quote:

quote:

It was the state itself legitimizing it, and making people think it’s normal and nothing wrong with it.

People already accepted it as normal and nothing wrong with it outside of certain extreme religious types. You have this wrong.

He said the state legitimized it with this ruling. YOU brought in popularity, not him. YOU then grabbed polls to try and prove your point, arguing that the ruling didnt have an effect. When your own poll shows a dip after the ruling

Cue my USAID comment. Who we now know shaped popular opinion specifically targeting the spread of garbage like this. Yet you still deny that

Thats when I laughed at you about brining public opinion to this. His question about polls was ONLY AFTER your pronouncement of public support prior to the ruling. Mr Literate
Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
Member since Apr 2013
12842 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 3:51 pm to
quote:

This is where I think conservatives go too far. Let the gays get married and ruin their lives with divorces.


Civil unions. Government should stay out of marriage and let the churches decide that.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
23356 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 3:53 pm to
quote:

This is where I think conservatives go too far. Let the gays get married and ruin their lives with divorces.

I get that legally it’s a flawed ruling, but it’s not worth the political capital to deal with it.

Not to mention if the government is going to marry people it has to marry everyone or stop calling it a marriage certificate and just refer to it as a civil union to avoid the religious connotation.
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
21761 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 3:57 pm to
quote:

You cannot separate the Gay and Transgender issues. It cannot be done


It’s strange, because while they come from the same tree of excessive liberalism, at the same time they are logically inconsistent and at odds.

You can’t have “born that way” arguments and gender fluidity or queer ideology.

The realization of these two co-existing ideologies is that confused kids that might ordinarily decide they are gay are being coerced to trans.
Posted by Goforit
Member since Apr 2019
8763 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 3:58 pm to
A legal union yes. Marriage is between a man and a woman. Keep it real.
Posted by Ostrich
Alexandria, VA
Member since Nov 2011
10339 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 3:59 pm to
quote:

This is where I think conservatives go too far. Let the gays get married and ruin their lives with divorces.



100% disagree. Gay Marriage broke the dam for liberal LGBT issues
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
23150 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 3:59 pm to
quote:

This is where I think conservatives go too far. Let the gays get married and ruin their lives with divorces.


Let people do whatever they want but one cannot be forced by an employer to perform any type of "convenience" or "service" that conflicts with their beliefs.
Posted by USAFTiger42
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2016
3843 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 4:02 pm to
Sounds like propaganda but after the Roe v Wade stuff right before midterms I wouldn't be surprised
Posted by BlackPawnMartyr
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2010
16313 posts
Posted on 2/7/25 at 4:09 pm to
Those are probably Catholic priests.
first pageprev pagePage 6 of 6Next pagelast page
refresh

Back to top
logoFollow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News
Follow us on X, Facebook and Instagram to get the latest updates on LSU Football and Recruiting.

FacebookXInstagram