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re: Alberta’s break-up talk with Canada gets real

Posted on 5/11/25 at 10:24 am to
Posted by Mandtgr47
Member since Aug 2024
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Posted on 5/11/25 at 10:24 am to
Then we take it
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
69180 posts
Posted on 5/11/25 at 10:39 am to
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Quebec has been trying for years and it hasnt happened


The Quebecois were bribed with money and autonomy to remain in Canada. Most of the money used to bribe Quebec and prop up the Maritimes comes from Alberta giving tax money without receiving any benefits for it. Alberta is being used as a tax colony to bribe Quebec into siding with Ottowa.
Posted by theballguy
Bama Park
Member since Oct 2011
28045 posts
Posted on 5/11/25 at 10:40 am to
Good point. Best to do one thing at a time.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
41718 posts
Posted on 5/11/25 at 10:41 am to
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Quebec has been trying for years and it hasnt happened


Not since the 90’s.

One of the referendums was lost by a razor thin margin.

With each passing one (4 in total), the federal government gave them concessions (especially more autonomy).

Let’s see what happens with Alberta.

If they go, Canada Balkanizes imho.
Posted by theballguy
Bama Park
Member since Oct 2011
28045 posts
Posted on 5/11/25 at 10:41 am to
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Have you vetted this through SFP ?



Posted by TravelingTiger55
Tiger Stadium
Member since Jul 2007
1390 posts
Posted on 5/11/25 at 10:41 am to
“Quebec has been trying for years and it hasnt happened“

Never had a President like Trump before. Better chance than ever of this happening
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
21261 posts
Posted on 5/11/25 at 10:44 am to
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No matter how justified it would be reasonable to call this treason


You sure? They don't want to attack or overthrow the government. They want to peacefully leave.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103093 posts
Posted on 5/11/25 at 10:48 am to
quote:

You sure? They don't want to attack or overthrow the government. They want to peacefully leave.


The Canadian government will call it such because leaving is never an option for authoritarian governments.

And for those who think I am being overly harsh, keep in mind the shite they pulled on the truckers protesting in the past few years. They did shite that made Chinese depositors in their bank bug out because they believed the government would freeze or seize their money on a whim.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
62406 posts
Posted on 5/11/25 at 11:27 am to
Seceded.
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
18919 posts
Posted on 5/11/25 at 11:50 am to
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If they go, Canada Balkanizes imho.

Yep. Alberta is the only net contributor to their federal treasury. Without Alberta paying the bills, Canada folds like a WalMart lawn chair.
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
23725 posts
Posted on 5/11/25 at 11:53 am to
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Would be nice to bring them on but they have a much better chance at becoming their own sovereign nation vs joining the US.

Just to become their own country, a Canadian province has to have a full majority vote (easiest part though they're not quite there yet) and have to negotiate with Canada (not so easy really). Canada would want half their resource income in perpetuity and likely a lot more concessions involving defense and other stuff.

Going the "join the US" route would be far more difficult and realistically, Canada would never negotiate with the US for it (too much of a perceived insult for now) and if somehow they did, they would ask for 10x as much. Imagine what they'd ask for if multiple provinces left.


So they become their own country (easiest way to divorce) and then a day later agree to become 51st US state. Once they are a state we tell Canada to frick off about any agreements in place prior to statehood.

Done and done
Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
11048 posts
Posted on 5/11/25 at 11:56 am to
Decades ago they just printed up t-shirts. Now, with the internet, it's going way beyond slogans.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
99901 posts
Posted on 5/11/25 at 11:58 am to
To become a state, Alberta would have to first after seceding from Canada

1. Form a government and state constitution that is in compliance with the U.S. Constitution

2. Legislation must be passed by simple majority in both chambers admitting them as a state

3. Signed by the President
Posted by Drizzt
Cimmeria
Member since Aug 2013
14881 posts
Posted on 5/11/25 at 12:08 pm to
We need to immediately offer Alberta statehood.
Posted by SlayTime
Member since Jan 2025
3512 posts
Posted on 5/11/25 at 12:10 pm to
Canada hasn’t the might nor the stomach to curtail Alberta if its people want to separate.
Posted by Great Plains Drifter
Flyover, U.S.A.
Member since Jul 2019
8563 posts
Posted on 5/11/25 at 12:26 pm to
Ottawa would go full CCP on Alberta before they’d let the province go.

Posted by RohanGonzales
Member since Apr 2024
7706 posts
Posted on 5/11/25 at 12:28 pm to
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Yeah, Quebec was a big talker about separation for years. Never came truly close. So we’ll see.


Hey dumbshit, you really should read threads before you post in them.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
19925 posts
Posted on 5/11/25 at 12:31 pm to
quote:

You sure? They don't want to attack or overthrow the government. They want to peacefully leave.

Alberta is over here practicing self-determination and this guy is running around talking about treason.

Tells you just how turned around and brain washed some people are with regards to freedom and independence.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
41664 posts
Posted on 5/11/25 at 12:33 pm to
Only part of Canada I even want to visit anymore.

C'mon in!
Posted by Fat Bastard
2024 NFL pick'em champion
Member since Mar 2009
87576 posts
Posted on 5/11/25 at 12:42 pm to
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Yeah, Quebec was a big talker about separation for years. Never came truly close. So we’ll see.


wrong again dipshit.

they lost by ONE vote!
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