re: After Trump is elected and everything doesn't magically cost what it did in 2019

Unfortunately the order is setting up sky high energy prices for the next presidents term. If it was Biden they would have ushered in some more Green New Deal crap. With Trump they'll make do with some riots and uprisings.

So you just want to troll clowns to get clown responses? You've opened the door to the Volkswagen.

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My gripe is more about how too many Americans believe in Political Saviors and there's no such thing as a political savior. Cost of living is jacked up in every OCED/first world country on earth. The brightest political minds and policymakers in nerd countries like Japan and China and Germany and the Scandanavian ones can't figure it out, but somehow Donald frigging Trump is going to come in and make the cost of everything great again.

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Being thought of as political saviors is how politicians position themselves, by default. "My idea will work, my opponent's will not," is the very foundation of trying to create the belief of choice in the voter's mind.

The problem, as you point out, is that there are so many people who would rather believe in a political savior (my guess is just because it requires less work, so they can focus on whatever else in their life which they see as having a more direct impact on them). This happens on both sides of the aisle (the vehemence between Ron & Don supporters is a prime example).

Out of the two most likely candidates, Biden & Trump, Trump has proven to have a far better grasp on economics.

Another aspect of this is that the economic issues we're seeing have been a long time in coming. Much of the world depends on the USD for varying things, far more so than every other currency combined (the USD is still used as the primary reserve currency by something like 58% or so). A lot of these issues come from Congress and their continued overspending (see also: baseline budgeting) which devalues the Dollar (thus causing more inflation).

That said, the best we can hope for with Trump is if he can push through various policies which will get inflation back down to 0% long enough for wages to balance back out. It won't be by the snap of any President's fingers, but the probability that this can happen increases tremendously when there's a President who actually understands economics and market forces because he's spent a lifetime in that sector rather than in government.

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Trump never has been and never will be a fiscal conservative.

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That applies to every Repube President in my lifetime. The last Republican President to actually decrease the deficit was Calvin Coolidge.

From the fiscal years between the nation’s founding in 1789 and 1913, the Federal Government had accumulated a $1 billion fiscal surplus. What changed in 1913?

The Trump cult believes Trump fixes all problems because that’s how cults see the world. When the cult leaders are ineffective, they blame others for “sabotaging” the cult leader. To the cult, that is further evidence that the leaders can do what they claim, even though they never deliver.

We had this for four years with Trump already.

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It’s very funny that you say this, clearly being facetious and taking a dig at people who believe this, while unironically missing the point that all of this is very much real.

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Ha! Good point.

I wasn’t sure if he was being ironic or redundant. Yet our nation’s debt-financed money-printing scheme IS the conspiracy.

No one saying he’s gonna fix prices to prior to 2020 but he sure the hell can stop the fricking hemorrhaging. Unlike the present administration who only intends to make it worse.

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Some of you need to take a class in context. In 2019 we had an economy that was nearly unprecedented in 20 years. Trumps economic policies were the reason for it.

Then Covid came around and no one had an idea of what Covid was at the time. Trump couldn’t throw birx and fauci out, they were the “experts” and he had to take into consideration their terrible ideas as who else was the White House to trust in march of 2020?

After the months of bullshite the administration brought in Dr atlas, you should really read his book on all the nuance surrounding what actions the president could take. His descriptions of his meetings with fauci and birx pretty much described what we all thought, but the positions they held carried significant weight, political and government functional weight. Our president isn’t some dictator that can just replace everyone for no reason without extreme political blowback….and you are kidding yourself if you believe if trump were to fire birx and/or fauci during that early Covid response that the democrats would sit by and not move towards removing trump by putting the country at risk by not following expert opinion. The GOPe would have loved to join up and make that 25th amendment move.

Oh, and on the spending aspect. Like we’ve had one president that has reduced spending. The GOP does not care about spending and hasn’t in 30 years.

The good thing about trump is that his economic policies greatly increased economic activity. That activity increased taxes the government received. The ratio of debt to gdp decreased the ever increasing debt load on our government. As the debt still rose, gdp rose faster. Providing a better opportunity to handle our debt.

Let’s also take out the notion that he never had a speaker that was on board with his policies. Ryan was a disaster and pelosi wasn’t going to do him any favors. Same in the senate. People tend to forget that the GOPe, for whatever reason, hate what trump represents.

So yes, trump is the best option we have. Yes his spending is worrying, but who the hell else would you have? Again, GOPe were spending just as much as the democrats.

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You nailed it. Pretty much every word. You have 3 downvoters that don’t know what they’re talking about.