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re: 87.5% of UAB ICU patients did NOT receive the vaccine
Posted on 8/25/21 at 3:55 pm to Stidham8
Posted on 8/25/21 at 3:55 pm to Stidham8
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There's a few but it's mostly nurses. Nearly all of the physicians I know are for the vaccine.
Why not 100%? They see it every day. Do you think they know there are other options in treating it?
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Posted on 8/25/21 at 3:55 pm to LSUbest
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We should be focusing on those that need the help.
You know, the 96% with underlying conditions, instead of pushing it on everyone.
I'd venture to say that well over half of the Alabama population could be put in the "obese" category which qualifies as one of those conditions. Everyone in this state certainly isn't walking around looking like a fitness model.
Posted on 8/25/21 at 3:55 pm to Stidham8
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87.5% of UAB ICU patients did NOT receive the vaccine
Please give us names and contact info of these patients
Posted on 8/25/21 at 3:56 pm to LNCHBOX
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Pretty much any data you want to look at.
Not really. Deaths are roughly the same as they were last year at the same time nationwide. The data in the actual vaccine trials isn’t really that impressive. So I wonder what data you’re referring to.
Posted on 8/25/21 at 3:56 pm to TigerIron
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"Overall" over what time period?
CURRENT inpatient numbers.
Posted on 8/25/21 at 3:57 pm to The Levee
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Israel’s death rate is less than Louisiana’s. You dumb frick.
But nearly 70% of the people hospitalized are vaccinated.....they'd rather you know that than to understand that you can't compare the statistics of vaccinated people from a place where nearly 100% of adults are vaccinated to a place where barely 45% are.
Posted on 8/25/21 at 3:58 pm to the808bass
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Not really.
Yea, really.
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Deaths are roughly the same as they were last year at the same time nationwide.
And who are those deaths mainly comprised of?
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The data in the actual vaccine trials isn’t really that impressive. So I wonder what data you’re referring to.
I just want you on record that it's a coincidence vaccinated people make up such a small percentage of hospitalizations and deaths.
Posted on 8/25/21 at 3:59 pm to Blizzard of Chizz
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Let’s look at the another way. 16% of UAB icu patients are vaccinated. That’s an awfully high percentage when you consider the constant drum beat of vaccination.
Or you could look at it as only 12.5% are in the ICU with the vaccine compared to 87.5% without the vaccine.
This post was edited on 8/25/21 at 4:00 pm
Posted on 8/25/21 at 3:59 pm to NC_Tigah
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Every damn US hospital out there is reporting similar data. 80%-95% of US CV19 admits are unvaccinated. The numerous clinicians who post here say the same thing. EVERY ONE of them!
A few honest question, Doc (you too, Dr Stidham)
Are any CV19 admits asymptomatic?
Are all CV19 admits tested positive, or are we still also relying on symptoms to call Covid positive?
A 45 yo 300 lb guy in cardiac arrest who has also tested positive for the virus but is asymptomatic is brought into the hospital. If he's vaccinated (but asymptomatic, remember) is he counted as a vaxxed CV19 admit even though he's hospitalized because of his heart issue? I'm guessing the answer is no, and if I'm right about that, answer the same question but change the patient to being unvaxxed - is he recorded as an unvaxxed CV19 admit, even though he's asymptomatic and there because of his heart?
This post was edited on 8/25/21 at 4:03 pm
Posted on 8/25/21 at 4:00 pm to Stidham8
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Why does this board ignore data like this?
Because we have been LIED TO by the government, media, and self interested/invested medical establishment from Day 1 with their "stats".
Yes Covid is real and yes it has dangers but it has been politicized and overplayed by the same token.
If Goebels sent out a bunch of stats circa 1943 on behalf of the Hitler regime, would you believe them just because it was an official governmental entity issuing the numbers? Perhaps in 1943 but I doubt it knowing now what you wouldn't have known then. Why? Because you have knowledge they were evil, dishonest, self indulgent...well we have knowledge of at least the dishonesty of some of the groups sending out stats on Covid.
This post was edited on 8/25/21 at 4:02 pm
Posted on 8/25/21 at 4:01 pm to Stidham8
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UAB isn't a paid spokesperson of anyone.
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For the fiscal year ended September 30, 2020, UAB
received $307.0 million in State educational
appropriations for operating purposes.
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During fiscal year 2020, UAB recognized $541.8 million in
sponsored grants and contracts revenues (including
$100.6 million of indirect cost recovery). Various federal
agencies provided the majority of support for these
projects, with the National Institutes of Health (NIH) being
the primary sponsor.
ETA: 2020 Financial Report
So State and Federal funding account for roughly 20% of UAB's operating revenue. They are a propaganda arm of the federal and state gov't. FACT.
This post was edited on 8/25/21 at 4:02 pm
Posted on 8/25/21 at 4:02 pm to Stidham8
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CURRENT inpatient numbers.
Bull
Posted on 8/25/21 at 4:02 pm to Stidham8
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Or you could look at it as only 12.5% are in the ICU with the vaccine compared to 87.5% without the vaccine.
Because the medical community has decided to assume vaxxed folks can ride this out at home so they don't get admitted.
Posted on 8/25/21 at 4:03 pm to Bulldogblitz
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Because the medical community has decided to assume vaxxed folks can ride this out at home so they don't get admitted.
Are you trying to frame this as a bad thing?
Posted on 8/25/21 at 4:03 pm to Stidham8
Posted on 8/25/21 at 4:04 pm to David_DJS
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Are any CV19 admits asymptomatic?
Are all CV19 admits tested positive, or are we still also relying on symptoms to call Covid positive?
A 45 yo 300 lb guy in cardiac arrest who has also tested positive for the virus but is asymptomatic is brought into the hospital. If he's vaccinated (but asymptomatic, remember) is he counted as a vaxxed CV19 admit even though he's hospitalized because of his heart issue? I'm guessing the answer is no, and if I'm right about that, answer the same question but change the patient to being unvaxxed - is he recorded as an unvaxxed CV19 admit, even though he's asymptomatic and there because of his heart?
No, you're only admitted if your oxygen saturation on room air drops below 92% on a walk test (or some sort of exercise test). Discharged home otherwise.
Most test positive but some are admitted as "PUIs" - persons under investigation that are assumed to be positive pending a test.
If the patient had cardiac arrest he'd be considered dead unless he was brought back to life with ACLS. Cardiac arrest is when your heart stops.
This post was edited on 8/25/21 at 4:07 pm
Posted on 8/25/21 at 4:06 pm to Stidham8
quote:With or without the vaccine.
Because Covid-19 isn't going away.
Why do you not recognize this?
Posted on 8/25/21 at 4:06 pm to HubbaBubba
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Now give us death statistics.
Since the beginning of the pandemic (about 20 months ago in the US), just over 600,000 people in the US have died [of/with/from] COVID.
Every 12 months in the US, over 650,000 people die of heart disease- far and away the #1 cause of death in the US for many concurrent generations.
Yet, somehow, every time the TV is on we still see McDonald's, Burger King and Coca Cola commercials...
Isn't that weird? It's like some things that cause death are ok because of the money they generate... but that can't be right. Tobacco companies can no longer advertise anywhere really. But beer and whiskey commercials are ok... man, there's some real confusion there.
Posted on 8/25/21 at 4:06 pm to Stidham8
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No, you're only admitted if your oxygen saturation on room air drops below 92% on a walk test (or some sort of exercise test). Discharged home otherwise.
Most test positive but some are admitted as "PUIs" - persons under investigation that are assumed to be positive pending a test.
If the patient had cardiac arrest he'd be considered dead unless he was brought back to life with ACLS. Cardiac arrest is when your heart stops.
Okay, so I got a question wrong and I'm questioning one of your answers.
But to my question - rather than cardiac arrest, he's suffering a heart attack. Better? So if he's suffering from a heart attack, and is known to be CV19 positive and unvaxxed, is he recorded as an unvaxxed CV19 admit?
Posted on 8/25/21 at 4:07 pm to TigerAxeOK
quote:or at least thats the number claimed. Many death certificates were falsified and Covid listed as reason for death when it wasnt.
just over 600,000 people in the US have died
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