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72 years ago today, the U.S. dropped 15 kilotons of freedom onto Japan
Posted on 8/6/17 at 7:58 pm
Posted on 8/6/17 at 7:58 pm
May it never have to happen agan.
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Posted on 8/6/17 at 7:59 pm to RollTide1987
Haven't you ever heard of a killer?
Posted on 8/6/17 at 8:09 pm to RollTide1987
Geared up for 8 pages of idiots saying the bombs didn't save more lives than they took.
Don't start none, won't be none.
Don't start none, won't be none.
Posted on 8/6/17 at 8:11 pm to RollTide1987
The funny thing is that the fire bombing of Tokyo probably killed more people than Little Boy.
Anywho, I hated the fact that we had to drop the bomb. But, when you are attacked, you must respond.
Anywho, I hated the fact that we had to drop the bomb. But, when you are attacked, you must respond.
Posted on 8/6/17 at 8:14 pm to crazycubes
Dresden and Tokyo fire bombings were worse than Hiroshima and Nagasaki but people with nefarious intentions tend to ignore that.
Posted on 8/6/17 at 8:15 pm to crazycubes
quote:Why?
I hated the fact that we had to drop the bomb
It is one of the most stirring examples of the power and beauty of the human mind.
Posted on 8/6/17 at 8:16 pm to RollTide1987
And Trump likes or doesn't like the Japs because the bomb was dropped on them?
Posted on 8/6/17 at 8:19 pm to Scoop
Vets say the Japenese wouldn't quit or ever surrender - very fanatical and would feign surrender only to suicide bomb.
Japan had to be shocked to its toes to give up - they really did...I mean, Hirohito was a god to them...Hitler was just a despot.
That said, Dresden was the biggest crime against humanity because it served no purpose, was not a military objective, didn't kill any soldiers really, just old civilians...and the war was basically over. It was pure malice and vengengce by the British who wanted revenge over the Blitz.
Japan had to be shocked to its toes to give up - they really did...I mean, Hirohito was a god to them...Hitler was just a despot.
That said, Dresden was the biggest crime against humanity because it served no purpose, was not a military objective, didn't kill any soldiers really, just old civilians...and the war was basically over. It was pure malice and vengengce by the British who wanted revenge over the Blitz.
Posted on 8/6/17 at 8:21 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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It is one of the most stirring examples of the power and beauty of the human mind.
Jesus Christ
Posted on 8/6/17 at 8:24 pm to RollTide1987
Unfortunately a useless act of violence
Posted on 8/6/17 at 8:30 pm to Scoop
quote:
Geared up for 8 pages of idiots saying the bombs didn't save more lives than they took.
People actually think that? If we would have invaded, a lot more civilians would have died. Those people were brainwashed and told that they should use whatever they could to fight back, including sticks and shite. They weren't to surrender. There was no honor in surrendering.
This article from The Atlantic did a good job of summing up the situation.
Posted on 8/6/17 at 8:42 pm to bmy
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Unfortunately a useless act of violence
Well here's our first Monday-morning quarterback.
Your expertise to claim this is what exactly?
Posted on 8/6/17 at 8:53 pm to RollTide1987
Hitler's biggest mistake was bombing Pearl Harbor.
Posted on 8/6/17 at 8:56 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Why?
It is one of the most stirring examples of the power and beauty of the human mind.
You're pretty messed up. I'm sure you won't be saying that if Kim Jung Un lobs one on you in California.
Posted on 8/6/17 at 8:57 pm to RollTide1987
Was it over when the Americans bombed Japan?
Posted on 8/6/17 at 8:58 pm to cameronml
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I'm sure you won't be saying that if Kim Jung Un lobs one on you in California.
I'm pretty sure most of the southeastern and midwestern part of the country will be saying that if California gets hit by a nuke. And when we're done laughing we'll hit North Korea one hundred fold.
Posted on 8/6/17 at 9:00 pm to RollTide1987
I understand that it was a necessary evil, but I won't cheer for the deaths of civilians like that.
Posted on 8/6/17 at 9:08 pm to bmy
Little known historical fact about the Japanese in WWII is that they were pursuing a nuclear bomb:
LINK
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The leading figure in the Japanese atomic program was Dr. Yoshio Nishina, a close associate of Niels Bohr and a contemporary of Albert Einstein.[7] Nishina had co-authored the Klein–Nishina formula.[8] Nishina had established his own Nuclear Research Laboratory to study high-energy physics in 1931 at RIKEN Institute (the Institute for Physical and Chemical Research), which had been established in 1917 in Tokyo to promote basic research.[9] Nishina had built his first 26-inch (660 mm) cyclotron in 1936, and another 60-inch (1,500 mm), 220-ton cyclotron in 1937. In 1938 Japan also purchased a cyclotron from the University of California, Berkeley.[7]
In 1939 Nishina recognized the military potential of nuclear fission, and was worried that the Americans were working on a nuclear weapon which might be used against Japan. Indeed, in 1939, President Franklin D. Roosevelt started the first investigations into fission weapons in the United States, which eventually evolved into the massive Manhattan Project, and the laboratory from which Japan purchased a cyclotron became one of the major sites for weapons research.
LINK
Posted on 8/6/17 at 9:08 pm to Jcorye1
My grandmother often said, and my father who was a Marine in the Pacific Theater, that the dropping of the bomb probably saved his life. Dad was in the Pacific three years, in several battles, rarely spoke of the war, but did say the Japanese were intent on fighting to death, so there.
Glad Truman dropped it. Japan should have never attacked us. Our problem is we have not won a war since WWII unless you count the first Gulf War which in my opinion we did not finish. We fight every war with one hand tied behind our back.
Glad Truman dropped it. Japan should have never attacked us. Our problem is we have not won a war since WWII unless you count the first Gulf War which in my opinion we did not finish. We fight every war with one hand tied behind our back.
Posted on 8/6/17 at 9:11 pm to FreeState
We should have went ahead and bombed Moscow while we had the chance.
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