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re: 72 years ago today, the U.S. dropped 15 kilotons of freedom onto Japan

Posted on 8/7/17 at 12:10 pm to
Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 8/7/17 at 12:10 pm to
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Hitler's biggest mistake was bombing Pearl Harbor.
Germans
Posted by Zach
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Posted on 8/7/17 at 12:20 pm to
I had the privilege of many conversations with Kirby Wilson before he passed 5 years ago. He was a marine and fought in the island hopping toward Japan. After the surrender he was assigned to occupation duties in Nagasaki.

I asked "Weren't you concerned about radiation?"

Him: "I never heard the word radiation. I didn't know such a thing existed until I finished my duty and came home. We just thought it was a really huge bomb."
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
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Posted on 8/7/17 at 12:23 pm to
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My grandmother often said, and my father who was a Marine in the Pacific Theater, that the dropping of the bomb probably saved his life. Dad was in the Pacific three years, in several battles, rarely spoke of the war, but did say the Japanese were intent on fighting to death, so there.



I'm a young punk and pussy compared to your grandpaw. Born in 1973. I never could wrap my head around what your grandpaw said, and others like him. Until I went to the pacific war museum in Fredericksburg. They have one of the Japanese subs that were first to arrive at Pearl Harbor. Not clear on the story of that sub and its involvement. It is undamaged. It's a god damned tuna can. 50 feet long or more but two men. Sat in that fricker and chugged out to fricking Hawaii in it!! Just to fire two torpedoes. That's it!

Think they were pretty damned determined and fanatical. Not to mention, weren't they finding guys into the 1950's on remote islands in the pacific still "on duty" never having known the war was over? Or were those just tall tales?
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Posted on 8/7/17 at 12:23 pm to
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Geared up for 8 pages of idiots saying the bombs didn't save more lives than they took. Don't start none, won't be none.



What is most pathetic about all of that is that they make so much more to do about a couple of atomic bombs dropped on Japanese Military targets in Hiroshima and Nagasaki than they ever do over firebombing civilian populations. I think most are completely clueless to that. Tokyo and Dresden have an arse load more to bitch about than Hiroshima and Nagasaki do.




BTW.... Tell it to the people of Nanjing China, and everywhere else those bastards raped, pillaged, and anihilated on their tear through that region of the world.








This post was edited on 8/7/17 at 12:26 pm
Posted by Champagne
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Posted on 8/7/17 at 12:29 pm to
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Germans


Hitler was Austrian and he made all of the Austrian-speaking peoples a part of Germany.
Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 8/7/17 at 12:31 pm to
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What is most pathetic about all of that is that they make so much more to do about a couple of atomic bombs dropped on Japanese Military targets in Hiroshima and Nagasaki than they ever do over firebombing civilian populations. I think most are completely clueless to that. Tokyo and Dresden have an arse load more to bitch about than Hiroshima and Nagasaki do.




BTW.... Tell it to the people of Nanjing China, and everywhere else those bastards raped, pillaged, and anihilated on their tear through that region of the world.

So, when we do it, it's strategic military strikes - war is hell.
When they do it, it's bastards raping, pillaging, and annihilating their way through the region - fricking terrorists.

Got it.

Oh, and the Middle East says hello.
Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 8/7/17 at 12:32 pm to
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Germans



Hitler was Austrian and he made all of the Austrian-speaking peoples a part of Germany.
And didn't bomb Pearl Harbor.
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Posted on 8/7/17 at 12:40 pm to
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So, when we do it, it's strategic military strikes - war is hell. When they do it, it's bastards raping, pillaging, and annihilating their way through the region - fricking terrorists. Got it. Oh, and the Middle East says hello.


Only a mentally challenged person would compare the level of disdain for human life the Japanese had with the occassional civilian casualty in war due to pussies hiding behind human shields in the Middle East.

Hell, the Japanese didn't even care about their own soldier's lives, not to mention the lives of those they dispised or were at war with. They slaughtered Nanjing China, raped the frick out of every woman and child, performed live human experiments, and killed the rest, and left our soldiers to die of starvation and disease, used them as forced labor and beat the living shite out of them, but OH frick.... Sympathy for the devil by TX Tiger.... You're so broad minded.... frick Off...


This post was edited on 8/7/17 at 12:42 pm
Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 8/7/17 at 12:54 pm to
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Only a mentally challenged person would compare the level of disdain for human life the Japanese had with the occassional civilian casualty in war due to pussies hiding behind human shields in the Middle East.
Only a mentally challenged person would back the establishment agenda in the Middle East.

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Hell, the Japanese didn't even care about their own soldier's lives,
Normandy says hello. The crew aboard the U.S.S. Liberty say hello.

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but OH frick.... Sympathy for the devil by TX Tiger.
You're the one making excuses for mass murder.

Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 8/7/17 at 1:06 pm to
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So, when we do it, it's strategic military strikes - war is hell.

When they do it, it's bastards raping, pillaging, and annihilating their way through the region - fricking terrorists.

Got it.


Are you incapable of realizing that the Japanese embarked on a war of conquest where they murdered huge numbers of innocent and helpless people?

We dropped atomic bombs on the Japanese because of their well demonstrated ability to oppose our conventional forces. And because they were completely oblivious of the lives of -their- civilians.

The fricking Japs sowed the wind and they reaped the whirlwind.
Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 8/7/17 at 1:15 pm to
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Are you incapable of realizing that the Japanese embarked on a war of conquest where they murdered huge numbers of innocent and helpless people?
Show me where I said they didn't.

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We dropped atomic bombs on the Japanese because of their well demonstrated ability to oppose our conventional forces. And because they were completely oblivious of the lives of -their- civilians.
The establishment, and the military industrial complex, thank you for your support.

Posted by StraightCashHomey21
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Posted on 8/7/17 at 1:18 pm to
Those bombs saved lives

A ground invasion of Japan would have resulted in a fricking ton of casualties. It would have been a fight to the death.
Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 8/7/17 at 1:26 pm to
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Are you incapable of realizing that the Japanese embarked on a war of conquest where they murdered huge numbers of innocent and helpless people?

Show me where I said they didn't.


So our actions in dropping atomic bombs in a situation where the Japanese could effectively resist our conventional military and the actions of the Japanese in murdering thousands of innocents - you see those two things as morally equivalent?
Posted by WhiskeyPapa
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Posted on 8/7/17 at 1:26 pm to
Duplicate.
This post was edited on 8/7/17 at 1:32 pm
Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 8/7/17 at 1:33 pm to
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Are you incapable of realizing that the Japanese embarked on a war of conquest where they murdered huge numbers of innocent and helpless people?

Show me where I said they didn't.



So our actions in dropping atomic bombs in a situation where the Japanese could effectively resist our conventional military and the actions of the Japanese in murdering thousands of innocents - you see those two things as morally equivalent?


Not sure what you're asking here. Is it the number of innocent people murdered that makes the difference, or is it just the fact that if we do it, it's a strategic military strike, and war is hell, whereas if they do it, it's murdering terrorists at work?
Posted by Zach
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Posted on 8/7/17 at 1:37 pm to
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Not sure what you're asking here. Is it the number of innocent people murdered that makes the difference, or is it just the fact that if we do it, it's a strategic military strike, and war is hell, whereas if they do it, it's murdering terrorists at work?


Well, there are statistics that can enlighten. The Nazis were bad. The Japs were bad. But if you were a soldier captured by the Nazis you were 10 times more likely to live till the end of the war than if you were captured by the Japs.
Posted by bmy
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Posted on 8/7/17 at 1:42 pm to
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It showed the Soviets that we were willing to use the bomb and that, for a time at least, we had the upper hand.


So would have detonating the bomb in an unpopulated area. Could have put a dent near Mt. Fuji and that was one of the ideas on the table.
This post was edited on 8/7/17 at 1:43 pm
Posted by TX Tiger
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Posted on 8/7/17 at 1:44 pm to
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Well, there are statistics that can enlighten. The Nazis were bad. The Japs were bad. But if you were a soldier captured by the Nazis you were 10 times more likely to live till the end of the war than if you were captured by the Japs.


Funny how when we murder innocent people, it's strategic military strike and war is hell. When they do it, it's raping, pillaging, terrorist animals.

The establishment has us so brainwashed and wrapped around their little finger.

Disgusting.
Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Member since Aug 2016
9277 posts
Posted on 8/7/17 at 1:45 pm to
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Not sure what you're asking here. Is it the number of innocent people murdered that makes the difference, or is it just the fact that if we do it, it's a strategic military strike, and war is hell, whereas if they do it, it's murdering terrorists at work?


We would never have been doing it to the Japanese except that the Japanese attacked us at Pearl Harbor so that they could continue doing it to the Chinese.

The Japanese could offer us violence and resistance that would cost us thousands of dead and wounded Americans. The Chinese were almost helpless before them.








Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 8/7/17 at 1:52 pm to
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Funny how when we murder innocent people, it's strategic military strike and war is hell. When they do it, it's raping, pillaging, terrorist animals.

The establishment has us so brainwashed and wrapped around their little finger.

Disgusting.


You are such an idiot. An absolute pathetic little moron.
This post was edited on 8/7/17 at 1:52 pm
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