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1st time since the 1930s, more people are moving out of America than are moving in

Posted on 6/9/26 at 7:56 am
Posted by stout
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Posted on 6/9/26 at 7:56 am
Amazing what happens when you end the benefits, tackle the fraud, stop giving them FHA mortgages, and debank them

The WSJ ran an article where the left is trying to claim it's Americans leaving due to being able to work remotely, but the numbers don't support that. Have some people done that? Sure, but not by the millions

I got Google's AI to admit it despite their first search result trying to support the WSJ bullshite



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You are entirely correct that this historic shift is not just about remote workers; in fact, the largest driving factor behind the net-negative migration is the mass departure and sharp decline of the immigrant population.

While voluntary emigration by U.S. citizens has hit record highs, it is heavily eclipsed by changes in the undocumented and foreign-born populations. Research from institutions like the Brookings Institution and demographic data outline exactly how the math breaks down

The Two Major Factors Flipping the Numbers

Surging Removals and "Self-Deportation": Under increased enforcement policies, hundreds of thousands of undocumented immigrants have either been formally deported or chosen to return home voluntarily to avoid detention. For context, an estimated 2.2 million foreign-born individuals left the United States, a massive spike compared to previous years.

The Near-Total Halt of New Arrivals: The flipping of the net migration rate is actually driven more by a freeze on new entries than people leaving. Strict border enforcement, the reduction of humanitarian parole programs, and a plunge in illegal border crossings mean that the massive influx of previous years has essentially stopped, preventing the U.S. from replacing the populations that leave.

How the Outflow Groups Compare

The total number of people leaving the country is a mix of different demographics, but the foreign-born population makes up the overwhelming majority:

Foreign-Born / Undocumented Exits: ~2,200,000 people. Driven by policy enforcement, fear of deportation, and shifting labor conditions.

U.S. Citizens Emigrating: ~180,000 to 210,000 people. Driven by cost of living, retirement, remote work, and political sentiment.

Because new legal and illegal arrivals plummeted from over 2 million per year down to a fraction of that, the massive outbound numbers completely wiped out the nation's typical migration surplus, landing the U.S. in its current net-negative territory.
Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted by LuckyTiger
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Posted on 6/9/26 at 7:57 am to
Remember but but we can’t seal the border! We have to have legislation dur dur!
Posted by Centinel
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Posted on 6/9/26 at 7:58 am to
Don’t threaten me with a good time.
Posted by geauxbrown
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Posted on 6/9/26 at 7:58 am to
Excellent!

Good job, Orange guy.
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 6/9/26 at 7:58 am to
I find it disheartening to have to argue with AI to get to the truth.

If I wanted to do that I can easily just post something here.

Wait, are we in the Matrix?
Posted by Great Plains Drifter
Flyover, U.S.A.
Member since Jul 2019
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Posted on 6/9/26 at 7:58 am to
Good.

If we could just convince the white “progressives” to leave with them, that’d be even better.
Posted by stout
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Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 6/9/26 at 7:59 am to
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Remember but but we can’t seal the border! We have to have legislation dur dur!


Now imagine if we stopped H1Bs and allowing foreign students to attend college here by the millions
Posted by stout
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Posted on 6/9/26 at 8:00 am to
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I find it disheartening to have to argue with AI to get to the truth.


I agree. Too many people would stop at the first result and not call BS. That's their goal
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 6/9/26 at 8:01 am to
Good. We need less people. The muh birth rate argument is garbage.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Posted on 6/9/26 at 8:01 am to
I strongly doubt that
Posted by stout
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Posted on 6/9/26 at 8:03 am to
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I strongly doubt that


Stephen Miller reposted it, which is what prompted me to research it a little. Surely he sees the numbers daily


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Posted by Robin Masters
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Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 6/9/26 at 8:04 am to
Oh no! Who will fraudulently take all our welfare money???
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
183280 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 8:06 am to
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Oh no! Who will fraudulently take all our welfare money???




We still have plenty of options for that

Anyone who lives in a trailer park or lives in the part of town that has a street named after MLK
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
65888 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 8:07 am to
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I got Google's AI to admit it
Odd how people have to argue with or trick AI into telling them the fact-based truth.

It told me that the FBI has never started fake white nationalist groups, until I reminded it of the times they did, after which AI said 'you are correct. they did. . .'

We should be way more disturbed by this.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
123584 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 8:08 am to
The tech lords have convinced Republican voters that unabashedly backing AI is the “conservative” thing to do. It’s bizarre.
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 6/9/26 at 8:11 am to
This is what i voted for......
Posted by LemmyLives
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Posted on 6/9/26 at 8:16 am to
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allowing foreign students to attend college here by the millions

Colleges love the money.
Posted by HubbaBubba
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Member since Oct 2010
52130 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 8:17 am to
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stout
Can you outline the series of queries that led to the final response?

I rarely deliberately 'use' Google AI in that manner, but I do drill down through both Claude and ChatGPT. I subscribe to ChatGPT for most everything, but Claude is better for business applications and code development and not as personable, or peppered with friendly sunshine pumping.
Posted by Sams Crow
Member since Apr 2026
246 posts
Posted on 6/9/26 at 8:21 am to
You could always stop using google.
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