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re: Trump looking to log national forests
Posted on 2/26/25 at 8:25 am to lowhound
Posted on 2/26/25 at 8:25 am to lowhound
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Kisatchie National Forest is thinned or logged nearly every year in sections. The forest service here also does a really good job with maintaing fire breaks and doing controlled burns as well. This needs to be instituted in other areas of the country that don't practice the same forest management as around here. Like other posters have said, to at least allow companies to go in and get dead and fallen trees out, or thin out pine beetle damaged trees would help a lot with wild fire danger. That was said over and over again about California for years.
Yes, and the logging company that has been working around where I turkey hunt have done fantastic job
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Posted on 2/26/25 at 8:58 am to The Levee
There's some thinning going on right now in Perry Co, MS in Desoto National Forest.
Posted on 2/26/25 at 9:49 am to lowhound
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Kisatchie National Forest is thinned or logged nearly every year in sections.
Yep, they logged the best dirt bike riding spot in the state a while back.
Posted on 2/26/25 at 9:51 am to BoostAddict
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Yep, they logged the best dirt bike riding spot in the state a while back.
Curious what area this was?
Posted on 2/26/25 at 10:06 am to TimeOutdoors
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An influx of new, cheap lumber will drastically reduce the cost of new housing construction. LET'S GO!
So Trump didn’t actually say this. I think he knows enough about supply and demand to not say something like this
It would be like saying we are going to drastically lower oil prices on domestic oil
There is a number that when a supply (oil, timber, domestic shrimp, etc.) gets to, it’s not profitable
Posted on 2/26/25 at 10:50 am to TimeOutdoors
Posted on 2/26/25 at 10:54 am to The Levee
I'll be honest, I always have thought we always logged NFs.
I was raised in the middle of KNF and it was constantly logged.
Kinda news to me that they don't log NF in other states.
I was raised in the middle of KNF and it was constantly logged.
Kinda news to me that they don't log NF in other states.
Posted on 2/26/25 at 11:42 am to Salmon
My dad worked for the US Forest Service for over 35 years.
Logging in most NFs are very regulated, just like special use permits. I'm all for increasing managed logging in the National Forests.
Logging on the Mark Twain NF was so sporadic that we would buy up large tracts of land in the area and log them. The lumber dealers wanted more lumber than the Forest Service would allow them to cut, so we filled the gap.
I used to have unlimited access to domestic hardwood for my furniture projects, now I pay out the arse per board foot.
Logging in most NFs are very regulated, just like special use permits. I'm all for increasing managed logging in the National Forests.
Logging on the Mark Twain NF was so sporadic that we would buy up large tracts of land in the area and log them. The lumber dealers wanted more lumber than the Forest Service would allow them to cut, so we filled the gap.
I used to have unlimited access to domestic hardwood for my furniture projects, now I pay out the arse per board foot.
This post was edited on 2/26/25 at 11:48 am
Posted on 2/26/25 at 12:19 pm to Ron Cheramie
quote:what about saying we will drastically reduce grocery prices on Day 1?
It would be like saying we are going to drastically lower oil prices on domestic oil
Posted on 2/26/25 at 12:28 pm to El Segundo Guy
ESA used to restrict management. Save the red cockhead woodpeckers, spotted owls, pine snakes and salamanders.
Posted on 2/26/25 at 12:41 pm to AwgustaDawg
Then why is treated wood at home depot still very expensive?
Posted on 2/26/25 at 1:06 pm to Creolesote
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treated wood at home depot still very expensive
because its not? Its almost back down to pre-covid which is amazing considering inflation.
Posted on 2/26/25 at 1:18 pm to Turnblad85
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Its almost back down to pre-covid which is amazing considering inflation.
what??
I had priced the lumber for a patio cover back in 2022. I'm thinking of doing it this summer and went back and updated pricing, everything has gone up except for 2x6s.
Posted on 2/26/25 at 2:42 pm to The Levee
Well California should be happy...that'll lower the lumber prices in order for them to build again in a wildfire prone area.
Posted on 2/26/25 at 3:08 pm to Salmon
We do. Which is why the comment is so baffling.
Posted on 2/26/25 at 3:24 pm to Loup
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everything has gone up except for 2x6s.
In February of 2020, the Random Lengths mill price for #2 2x6 SYP was about $320 per mbf.
By the middle of that year it went to over $1000 and essentially stayed there for two years.
Now it's back down to $350 and there's no sign of it going anywhere.
Posted on 2/26/25 at 4:47 pm to SCwTiger
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There’s been thinning of KNF timber for probably ten years now, and an occasional clearcut.
That's how it's supposed to look. A pine prairie, or pine savanna if you will.
Posted on 2/26/25 at 5:19 pm to Salmon
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I'll be honest, I always have thought we always logged NFs.
When you fly into Seattle you can see all the logging areas in the Cascades and it looks like shite.
I'm sure theyre looking at the Tongass and Chugach, which would be terrible ideas to start logging there again.
This post was edited on 2/26/25 at 5:21 pm
Posted on 2/27/25 at 7:14 am to AwgustaDawg
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I have milled about 3000 bf of it and it is down to about 15% moisture content. It is straighter and truer than ANY lumber sold in any lumber yard in Georgia. It’s also true dimensioned. There is no market for it at all.
I was involved in a small building project headed by a hobby carpenter that was entirely built with old growth pine that came down in a hurricane and was privately milled and stored. The wood was gorgeous and 100x better than any branded lumber on the market. We had to get an engineer to sign off on a couple variances to use unbranded lumber on the job. The building inspectors told us how great the lumber was, how the cottage would stand for a hundred years, etc., and they all apologized and failed the inspections until we could hire an engineer to sign off on it. It was a huge pain in the arse.
But lumber privately milled and dried like you are describing is what God sent down to build stuff with. It is way superior to commercial lumber. I appreciate that you chose not to waste it.
Posted on 2/27/25 at 8:06 am to TBoy
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I was involved in a small building project headed by a hobby carpenter that was entirely built with old growth pine that came down in a hurricane and was privately milled and stored. The wood was gorgeous and 100x better than any branded lumber on the market. We had to get an engineer to sign off on a couple variances to use unbranded lumber on the job. The building inspectors told us how great the lumber was, how the cottage would stand for a hundred years, etc., and they all apologized and failed the inspections until we could hire an engineer to sign off on it. It was a huge pain in the arse.
But lumber privately milled and dried like you are describing is what God sent down to build stuff with. It is way superior to commercial lumber. I appreciate that you chose not to waste it.
I would LOVE to use these trees to timber frame our retirement home. I have never built a timber frame building but no one who has ever built one had done it previously when they did their first one. It has been done for centuries by people who did it once and did not need to do it again and many of those structures lasted hundreds of years. To do this I have to hire a PE acceptable to the county inspectors office, not the state licensing board, who will sign off on my design. I have found a couple, one licensed in the state and 2 others licensed in other states. The one licensed in Georgia may or may not be acceptable to the county...I have to apply for (and pay for) a permit to find out LOL. Its not worth the effort or risk.
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